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Re: Patch for ME

#94303
From: John Moore
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:06
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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:52:29 -0000, Stephen Howe wrote:

>> Quite sure.  Done it with both Doom 3 and Quake 4.  Both times they
>> informed me during setup that I was installing to a unsupported OS, but
>> gave me the choice of installing anyway.
> 
> I would not be so sure. What matters is that is the 3 main files of Windows 
> (KERNEL32.DLL, USER32.DLL & GDI32.DLL) support the APIs that Doom3/Quake4 
> requires. If they do not, it will not run.

AFAIK the only 2K/XP spesific API call D3 and Q4 use is
"GlobalMemoryStatusEx".  The 9x version is "GlobalMemoryStatus".  Is the
case of running Doom 3/Quake 4 there is no pratical difference between
the two calls.  From what I have heard "GlobalMemoryStatusEx"  can
address up to 4TB of memory but "GlobalMemoryStatus" can't.

 
> A case in point:
> Visual Studio 2005 C++ apps may not run on Windows NT 4.0.
> Some of the apps, if built in a certain way - require the API 
> GetLongPathNameW to exist.
> Now NT4.0's KERNEL even with Service Pack 6a, does not support that API.
> So they will not run on NT 4.0

Valid point in some cases, not however for D3/Q4.

> Depending on how critical these missing APIs are, hacking Doom3/Quake4 may 
> not be enough.

"GlobalMemoryStatusEx" must not be very critical because
"GlobalMemoryStatus" seems good enough to run D3/Q4, and I have run Q4
on WinME with 512MB ram and a GeForce5200 with 128MB ram and it was
still playable and it NEVER crashed on me.  D3 only locked up ONCE for
about 5 seconds as it had to wake up the HD, and that was running a
Geforce4 MX440 with 64MB ram.  Both times were on a AMD Athlon XP 3000+.

> It would be interesting to find out how far back you can go with
> 
> Windows 95
> Windows 98, first edition
> Windows 98, second edition
> Windows ME
> Windows NT 3.1
> Windows NT 3.5
> Windows NT 4.0
> Windows 2000
> Windows XP
> Windows 2003

I don't get what you mean with that.

The bottom line is that Doom 3 and Quake 4 will run perfectly well on at
least WinME and I have read reports of D3 running on 98se.  IMHO there
was no real good reason to exclude 98/ME systems.

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Subject: Re: Patch for ME
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