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Article #93790Re: John Carmack's QuakeCon 2005 Keynote - complete transcript
From: steamKILLER
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:57
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 05:57
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x-no-archive: yes Highlander wrote: <snip john carmack quakecon 2005 keynote> how could the people asking questions left steam out they had to ask john about steam and i bet he would reply "i hate steam!" but there was an obvious direct criticism targeting valve when john says: > "I do get a little irritated about people getting too > proprietary about their addition to the code when it's > built on top of what other people have put far more effort > into." as for the disappointments... first john talked too much about consoles and then he said he would be coding for them directly that's bad news although he told he still prefers the pc for its openness and freedom and for him its still the best and by far the best of it all was the news quake3 source code will be released under gpl these are the great quotes: > "And I'm still waiting for someone to have the nerve to do > this, to actually like ship a commercial game with the > source code on the CD. I mean, that would be really cool." > "But if you work with the original pristine source from id, > you can always come back to us and say "well we developed > all of this with the GPL source code, we want to ship a > commercial product, but we don't want to release our source > code, so we'd like to buy a license", and we do that at > reasonably modest fees, we've done that some with the > previous generation, and that's certainly an option for > Quake 3." > "I do hope that one of these days that somebody will go and > do a budget title based on some of this code, and actually > release the source code on the CD." quake3 source code under gpl is just great! fantastic! and its an enormous opportunity for pc games lets hope developers know how to grab this opportunity cause its an historic one this really shows the enormous distance someone like john carmack which is a giving and friendly guy has to those greedy bastards at valve -- post made in a steam-free computer i said "NO" to valve and steam
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