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Re: nazi reference in doom????

#851
From: tr9... Christopher Owen
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 18:53
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In article <1994Jan10.0...@julian.uwo.ca> dou...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Russ Doucet) writes:
>In article <2gobte$b...@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu> zi...@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu (Stephan K. Zitz) writes:
>>In article <albertwC...@netcom.com>,
>>The Feddie Punk of Solomon <alb...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>|In article <NEVES.94J...@ballard.cs.colorado.edu>
>>ne...@ballard.cs.colorado.edu (NEVES RICHARD K) writes: >>
>>|>I was VERY disturbed to see this huge swastika in one of the rooms.
>>|>It bothers me 'cause it makes me think the creators of the game have
>>|>some sort of agenda.   That's really nasty and dangerous symbolism,
>>|>don't you guys think.
>`
>>However...  Just because the swastika shape is used, doesn't automatically
>>insinuate the shape is symbolizing the nazi icon...
>
>Yeah, it certainly doesn't mean it's the nazi icon.  Because it ISN'T!
>the one in the game goes
>----+   |                                       |   +----
>    |   |    like this      and the nazi one    |   |
>+---+---+                   goes like this      +---+---+
>|   |	                                            |   |
>|   +----                                       ----+   | 
>
>So you can just end your little debate right there hmmmm?
>
>BTW the other swastika, the one in the game is representative of some indian
>tribe somewhere which is wherer the nazis actually got the idea from to 
>make their own from but my details on this aspect are sketchy.

 I can't help feeling that iD have boobed slightly here... the Nazi swastika
was a symbol of good luck and Christianity (the gammadian cross) - you'll
find it in churches in many parts of central Europe. The other swastika, the
suvastika, was a symbol of the Hindu blood-goddess Kali, evil and black magic
(and still is, in India)! So either it's a Nazi symbol or an evil symbol or
both... Come to think of it, if it is indeed a suvastika, then wouldn't that
be logical in a game about evil forces from hell, pentagrams and all?

 Anyway, isn't it a bit pedantic to complain about this in a game as full of
gore as Doom? It's rather like complaining about the picture quality in
hard-core porn films...

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		  Chris Owen  -  tr9...@black.ox.ac.uk
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