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Article #851Re: nazi reference in doom????
From: tr9... Christopher Owen
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 18:53
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 18:53
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In article <1994Jan10.0...@julian.uwo.ca> dou...@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Russ Doucet) writes: >In article <2gobte$b...@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu> zi...@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu (Stephan K. Zitz) writes: >>In article <albertwC...@netcom.com>, >>The Feddie Punk of Solomon <alb...@netcom.com> wrote: >>|In article <NEVES.94J...@ballard.cs.colorado.edu> >>ne...@ballard.cs.colorado.edu (NEVES RICHARD K) writes: >> >>|>I was VERY disturbed to see this huge swastika in one of the rooms. >>|>It bothers me 'cause it makes me think the creators of the game have >>|>some sort of agenda. That's really nasty and dangerous symbolism, >>|>don't you guys think. >` >>However... Just because the swastika shape is used, doesn't automatically >>insinuate the shape is symbolizing the nazi icon... > >Yeah, it certainly doesn't mean it's the nazi icon. Because it ISN'T! >the one in the game goes >----+ | | +---- > | | like this and the nazi one | | >+---+---+ goes like this +---+---+ >| | | | >| +---- ----+ | > >So you can just end your little debate right there hmmmm? > >BTW the other swastika, the one in the game is representative of some indian >tribe somewhere which is wherer the nazis actually got the idea from to >make their own from but my details on this aspect are sketchy. I can't help feeling that iD have boobed slightly here... the Nazi swastika was a symbol of good luck and Christianity (the gammadian cross) - you'll find it in churches in many parts of central Europe. The other swastika, the suvastika, was a symbol of the Hindu blood-goddess Kali, evil and black magic (and still is, in India)! So either it's a Nazi symbol or an evil symbol or both... Come to think of it, if it is indeed a suvastika, then wouldn't that be logical in a game about evil forces from hell, pentagrams and all? Anyway, isn't it a bit pedantic to complain about this in a game as full of gore as Doom? It's rather like complaining about the picture quality in hard-core porn films... ----------------------------------------- Chris Owen - tr9...@black.ox.ac.uk -----------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: alt.games.doom Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!comlab.ox.ac.uk!tr95006 From: tr9...@black.ox.ac.uk (Christopher Owen) Subject: Re: nazi reference in doom???? Message-ID: <1994Jan13.185300.15635@black.ox.ac.uk> Originator: tr95006@black Organization: Oxford University Computing Services, Oxford, U.K. References: <NEVES.94Jan8231740@ballard.cs.colorado.edu> <albertwCJCp7L.HEt@netcom.com> <2gobte$b7r@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu> <1994Jan10.045635.21090@julian.uwo.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 18:53:00 GMT Lines: 45 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit