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Article #671Re: Are we DOOMed to violence?
From: mc... Ken McGlothlen
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 1994 18:57
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 1994 18:57
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eds...@u.washington.edu (Ed Suominen) writes: | Now that the catharsis effect has been disproven by the science of | Psychology, *bzzt*. *Some* of the claims have certainly been disproven, but some of them seem to still be supported by evidence. | and it has been shown that violent role-playing only feeds the acceptance of | real violence, why are we doing violent role-playing? *bzzt*. Better define "role-playing" in this situation. There is a very clear distinction between games and real-life. Even four-year-olds realize it. | Witness the streets of America today, and note how similiar it is to the | violence on TV. It goes both ways. Witness the streets of Chicago in the 1920s. That took place 30 years before the premiere of "The Untouchables." TV reflects reality far better than reality affects television. (By the way, "The Untouchables" is still one of the top five most violent shows ever aired.) | And now we need a game where you can personally shoot a high-caliber pistol | at an "enemy" and watch the blood spurt out? Or hack away with a chainsaw or | stab with a bloody knife? Just as bad as a game of search-and-destroy (Battleship), or drive-your- opponents-to-economic-ruin (Monopoly), or any of a bazillion other game pretenses. Personally, I find the greed and ruthlessness inherent in Monopoly about as disturbing as the violence in the Mortal Kombat video game. But the point is, they're both *games*. Not reality. It's not like, say, any war, where you can personally shoot a high-caliber pistol at a REAL PERSON and watch the blood spurt out. | What if this game were set in Nazi Germany, and your job was to push Jews | into ovens? To throw little Jewish babies in the air and shoot them? To take | pot-shots at little jewish boys for kicks? It would *only* be role-playing? But it's not. DOOM is based on a fantastic premise using weird and hostile alien beings, not a historical premise against nonhostile or defenseless people. You're really reaching here, to an embarrassing degree. I'm a little embarrassed to admit that you're at the same university. | Maybe we need "JFK Assasin", "Crucifixion of Slaves in Ancient Rome", "The | Spanish Inquisition", or "Lynch Mob!" in living 3D color. Again, you're reaching. Sorry. I just don't buy it. ---Ken
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Path: mbox-mo1.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!usenet.coe.montana.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.u.washington.edu!cpac.washington.edu!mcglk From: mc...@cpac.washington.edu (Ken McGlothlen) Newsgroups: alt.games.doom Subject: Re: Are we DOOMed to violence? Date: 7 Jan 94 18:57:41 Organization: Dubious. Lines: 49 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <MCGLK.94Jan7185741@yang.cpac.washington.edu> References: <2gkprc$7or@news.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: yang.cpac.washington.edu In-reply-to: edsuom@u.washington.edu's message of 7 Jan 1994 23:05:16 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit