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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:00:08 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

>Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
>cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
>in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
>posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
>Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
>names elude me at the moment.
>
>Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
>Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
>of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
>old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
>splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
>
>Been around 11 years now since I first discovered usenet and stumbled
>into AGD... and thought "damn, this is one weird-ass collection of
>people." Long live weirdness!  <grin>
>
>Who's around these days? Justus... sound off!
>
>Justus of AGD shall ride again when the time comes- we'll see to it. 
>   -Marshall

As you noted, I'm here and pretty much always will be. AGD just
*still* feels like home, you know? Welcome back, maybe we can con Ken
out of some muffins for you ;-)

ald
"Knowledge is Power"
VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West)
Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West)
Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West)
Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod)
Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR)
Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR)
Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR)
Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR)
Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op)
BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP)
Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR)
Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder)
CotSRSig #16

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:12:30 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:00:08 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>
>>Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
>>cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
>>in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
>>posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
>>Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
>>names elude me at the moment.
>>
>>Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
>>Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
>>of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
>>old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
>>splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
>>
>>Been around 11 years now since I first discovered usenet and stumbled
>>into AGD... and thought "damn, this is one weird-ass collection of
>>people." Long live weirdness!  <grin>
>>
>>Who's around these days? Justus... sound off!
>>
>>Justus of AGD shall ride again when the time comes- we'll see to it. 
>>   -Marshall
>
>As you noted, I'm here and pretty much always will be. AGD just
>*still* feels like home, you know? Welcome back, maybe we can con Ken
>out of some muffins for you ;-)
>
>ald
>"Knowledge is Power"
>VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
>Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West)
>Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West)
>Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West)
>Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod)
>Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR)
>Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR)
>Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR)
>Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR)
>Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op)
>BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP)
>Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR)
>Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder)
>CotSRSig #16

Heya ald, good to see you keepin' the faith. I believe this place will
be a hoppin' again in advance of D3's release, but a bit early for too
much excitement yet, I reckon. I see you keep quite a stable of old D2
characters, from your sig. I haven't touched it since, hmm... middle
of 2003, I guess it was, when I finally burned out on it. One too many
cow runs and Meph runs.

It's really amazing to me to think that anyone is actually playing the
game still, almost six years after I burned out, and with no added
content since then. Even with mods, it's gotta be gettin' a tidge long
in the tooth for anybody but a pure noobie, anymore. Plus, I've gotten
addicted to actually seeing the features of my character's face,
something always sadly lacking in D2. Huge, high-rez fully 3D worlds
are kindof addictive, too. The small maps, amorphic faces and static
isometric world of D2 just don't cut it anymore for me. But from what
I've seen of D3 so far, there will be no lack of detail and high-rez
glory in the offing :-)

Are there still many people playing D2 on battle.net, or has it slowed
down a lot in the past few years?
   -Marshall

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:38:26 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

>Heya ald, good to see you keepin' the faith. I believe this place will
>be a hoppin' again in advance of D3's release, but a bit early for too
>much excitement yet, I reckon. I see you keep quite a stable of old D2
>characters, from your sig. I haven't touched it since, hmm... middle
>of 2003, I guess it was, when I finally burned out on it. One too many
>cow runs and Meph runs.
>
>It's really amazing to me to think that anyone is actually playing the
>game still, almost six years after I burned out, and with no added
>content since then. Even with mods, it's gotta be gettin' a tidge long
>in the tooth for anybody but a pure noobie, anymore. Plus, I've gotten
>addicted to actually seeing the features of my character's face,
>something always sadly lacking in D2. Huge, high-rez fully 3D worlds
>are kindof addictive, too. The small maps, amorphic faces and static
>isometric world of D2 just don't cut it anymore for me. But from what
>I've seen of D3 so far, there will be no lack of detail and high-rez
>glory in the offing :-)
>
>Are there still many people playing D2 on battle.net, or has it slowed
>down a lot in the past few years?
>   -Marshall

Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
make it into my sig).

2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
*think* about trying it ;-)

I rarely see anyone I know on BNet anymore, but then again I see most
of them in WoW, and I usually only play BNet on Tuesday mornings.

ald
"Knowledge is Power"
VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West)
Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West)
Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West)
Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod)
Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR)
Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR)
Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR)
Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR)
Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op)
BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP)
Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR)
Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder)
CotSRSig #16

Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote in 
news:59c9q4dlhphj8voppp7907nq55rrfqii40@4ax.com:

> Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
> cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
> in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
> posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
> Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
> names elude me at the moment.
> 
> Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
> Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
> of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
> old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
> splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
> 
> Been around 11 years now since I first discovered usenet and stumbled
> into AGD... and thought "damn, this is one weird-ass collection of
> people." Long live weirdness!  <grin>
> 
> Who's around these days? Justus... sound off!
> 
> Justus of AGD shall ride again when the time comes- we'll see to it. 
>    -Marshall

Hey Marshall!

Good to see a familiar face again, so to speak.

I still play hardcore on bnet from time to time, so I really hardly ever 
see anyone.

Looking forward to D3 as well, assuming I can afford a machine it'll run 
on when it comes.

Hope life's been good to you.

Mark.

*-Tymme-
*TymmeRMortis
*AveAtqueVale

-- 
Verbing weirds language--Calvin

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
wrote:
>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>make it into my sig).
>
>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>*think* about trying it ;-)

What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.

>I rarely see anyone I know on BNet anymore, but then again I see most
>of them in WoW, and I usually only play BNet on Tuesday mornings.

I think just about everyone who migrated from Diablo to WoW, will be
returning for at least a sample of D3. It's been way too long since
the series had any luvin' from Blizzard, and for a huge number of
people, Diablo 1 and/or 2 were there first loves, before WoW ever came
along. I'm hoping that D3's revamped battle.net will be an improvement
over the ancient and outdated one we've known up until now- it was so
primitive and lacking in features and options. Be interesting to see
what improvements they make. 

Oh, I haven't reloaded D2/LoD, but you mentioned losing your
multiplayer chars after an extended absence- I don't suppose there's
any chance that I still have any of my old MP chars still left, after
a 6-year absence? LOL! Probby not.
   -Marshall

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:09:23 GMT, "Mark P. Nelson"
<markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote in 
>news:59c9q4dlhphj8voppp7907nq55rrfqii40@4ax.com:
>
>> Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
>> cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
>> in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
>> posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
>> Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
>> names elude me at the moment.
>> 
>> Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
>> Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
>> of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
>> old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
>> splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
>> 
>> Been around 11 years now since I first discovered usenet and stumbled
>> into AGD... and thought "damn, this is one weird-ass collection of
>> people." Long live weirdness!  <grin>
>> 
>> Who's around these days? Justus... sound off!
>> 
>> Justus of AGD shall ride again when the time comes- we'll see to it. 
>>    -Marshall
>
>Hey Marshall!
>
>Good to see a familiar face again, so to speak.
>
>I still play hardcore on bnet from time to time, so I really hardly ever 
>see anyone.
>
>Looking forward to D3 as well, assuming I can afford a machine it'll run 
>on when it comes.
>
>Hope life's been good to you.

Thanks, Mark, been doing ok :-) Good to see you again too! I'm sure
I'll be investing in an updated PC by the time D3 hits the streets,
hopefully one with Windows 7 on it, and not Vista ;-)  I'm still on XP
at this time, never did take a fancy to the upstart. 

Was just on Blizzard's site checking out some of the screenshots and
videos, and the mage looks pretty darn cool. They've had a lot of
years for their concept artists to perfect some awfully nice-looking
spell affects... I drool just seeing these short vids. The
realtime-physics are pretty neat, too. Be interesting to see what kind
of machine it will take, to do all of it justice.
    -Marshall

(and the characters have FACES!!! w00t!  :-D )

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:14:32 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>wrote:
>>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>>make it into my sig).
>>
>>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>>*think* about trying it ;-)
>
>What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.

Uber Tristram, where you fight three of the act end bosses on steroids
;-) Hopefully someone who's a bit more familiar with it can refresh my
memory as to exactly who it is, and the rewards that are possible.

>>I rarely see anyone I know on BNet anymore, but then again I see most
>>of them in WoW, and I usually only play BNet on Tuesday mornings.
>
>I think just about everyone who migrated from Diablo to WoW, will be
>returning for at least a sample of D3. It's been way too long since
>the series had any luvin' from Blizzard, and for a huge number of
>people, Diablo 1 and/or 2 were there first loves, before WoW ever came
>along. I'm hoping that D3's revamped battle.net will be an improvement
>over the ancient and outdated one we've known up until now- it was so
>primitive and lacking in features and options. Be interesting to see
>what improvements they make. 
>
>Oh, I haven't reloaded D2/LoD, but you mentioned losing your
>multiplayer chars after an extended absence- I don't suppose there's
>any chance that I still have any of my old MP chars still left, after
>a 6-year absence? LOL! Probby not.
>   -Marshall

Actually, they changed that recently, so that if no one started a
character with the same name, you can still res expired characters.
Might be worth a try ;-)

ald
"Knowledge is Power"
VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West)
Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West)
Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West)
Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod)
Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR)
Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR)
Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR)
Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR)
Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op)
BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP)
Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR)
Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder)
CotSRSig #16

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:28:58 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:14:32 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>wrote:
>>>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>>>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>>>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>>>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>>>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>>>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>>>make it into my sig).
>>>
>>>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>>>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>>>*think* about trying it ;-)
>>
>>What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.
>
>Uber Tristram, where you fight three of the act end bosses on steroids
>;-) Hopefully someone who's a bit more familiar with it can refresh my
>memory as to exactly who it is, and the rewards that are possible.

That a mod?

>>>I rarely see anyone I know on BNet anymore, but then again I see most
>>>of them in WoW, and I usually only play BNet on Tuesday mornings.
>>
>>I think just about everyone who migrated from Diablo to WoW, will be
>>returning for at least a sample of D3. It's been way too long since
>>the series had any luvin' from Blizzard, and for a huge number of
>>people, Diablo 1 and/or 2 were there first loves, before WoW ever came
>>along. I'm hoping that D3's revamped battle.net will be an improvement
>>over the ancient and outdated one we've known up until now- it was so
>>primitive and lacking in features and options. Be interesting to see
>>what improvements they make. 
>>
>>Oh, I haven't reloaded D2/LoD, but you mentioned losing your
>>multiplayer chars after an extended absence- I don't suppose there's
>>any chance that I still have any of my old MP chars still left, after
>>a 6-year absence? LOL! Probby not.
>>   -Marshall
>
>Actually, they changed that recently, so that if no one started a
>character with the same name, you can still res expired characters.
>Might be worth a try ;-)

Nah, it was just idle curiosity. I have no desire to resurrect my old
D2 chars. They shall be born anew, in D3! 
    -Marshall

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:44:16 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:28:58 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:14:32 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>>>>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>>>>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>>>>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>>>>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>>>>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>>>>make it into my sig).
>>>>
>>>>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>>>>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>>>>*think* about trying it ;-)
>>>
>>>What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.
>>
>>Uber Tristram, where you fight three of the act end bosses on steroids
>>;-) Hopefully someone who's a bit more familiar with it can refresh my
>>memory as to exactly who it is, and the rewards that are possible.
>
>That a mod?
>

No, it's in the regular game. IIRC, you collect keys from Nilithak,
the Countess, and one other in Hell, and use them to open the portals
to Uber Tristram. Could somebody *please* jump in here and clarify
this? I'm about at the end of my memory here, and *way* beyond my
experience.

>>>>I rarely see anyone I know on BNet anymore, but then again I see most
>>>>of them in WoW, and I usually only play BNet on Tuesday mornings.
>>>
>>>I think just about everyone who migrated from Diablo to WoW, will be
>>>returning for at least a sample of D3. It's been way too long since
>>>the series had any luvin' from Blizzard, and for a huge number of
>>>people, Diablo 1 and/or 2 were there first loves, before WoW ever came
>>>along. I'm hoping that D3's revamped battle.net will be an improvement
>>>over the ancient and outdated one we've known up until now- it was so
>>>primitive and lacking in features and options. Be interesting to see
>>>what improvements they make. 
>>>
>>>Oh, I haven't reloaded D2/LoD, but you mentioned losing your
>>>multiplayer chars after an extended absence- I don't suppose there's
>>>any chance that I still have any of my old MP chars still left, after
>>>a 6-year absence? LOL! Probby not.
>>>   -Marshall
>>
>>Actually, they changed that recently, so that if no one started a
>>character with the same name, you can still res expired characters.
>>Might be worth a try ;-)
>
>Nah, it was just idle curiosity. I have no desire to resurrect my old
>D2 chars. They shall be born anew, in D3! 
>    -Marshall

That's the spirit, although playing D2 isn't a bad way to kill time on
Tuesday mornings ;-)

ald
"Knowledge is Power"
VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
Matriarch Sis-West level 82 Bowazon (US West)
Champion RingsNThngs level 61 Bowazon (US West)
Slayer ZannEsu-ald level 51 Sorceress (US West)
Matriarch Sis-AR level 99 Bowazon (Ancestral Recall Mod)
Champion Creepy-AR Level 91 Necromancer (AR)
Slayer Zan-AR Level 79 Sorceress (AR)
Slayer SisEight-AR Level 78 Bowazon (AR)
Gems-AR Level 55 Barbarian (AR)
Matriarch Sis-otSEye Level 78 Bowazon (US West, co-op)
BtaSisEight-ald Level 50 Bowazon (LoD 1.10 SP)
Aragorn-AR Level 51 Zealadin (AR)
Champion LTwoSis-ald Level 79 Bowazon (US West Ladder)
CotSRSig #16

I think it was ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com> that wrote something
like...

>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:44:16 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:28:58 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:14:32 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>>>>>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>>>>>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>>>>>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>>>>>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>>>>>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>>>>>make it into my sig).
>>>>>
>>>>>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>>>>>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>>>>>*think* about trying it ;-)
>>>>
>>>>What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.
>>>
>>>Uber Tristram, where you fight three of the act end bosses on steroids
>>>;-) Hopefully someone who's a bit more familiar with it can refresh my
>>>memory as to exactly who it is, and the rewards that are possible.
>>
>>That a mod?
>>
>
>No, it's in the regular game. IIRC, you collect keys from Nilithak,
>the Countess, and one other in Hell, and use them to open the portals
>to Uber Tristram. Could somebody *please* jump in here and clarify
>this? I'm about at the end of my memory here, and *way* beyond my
>experience.

In hell diff you run the Countess, the summoner in Act 2 and Nilithak.
You want to collect 3 keys from each of them for a total of 9 keys.
Then while you're in Horagath (act 5 town), you put 1 of each type
into the horadric cube and use the cube to turn them into a portal.
There are 3 possible portals that can appear, though you can't get
more than one portal of the same type in the same game, which is why
you want 9 keys, so you can do the transmute three times and be sure
of getting all 3 portals.  Inside the portals you'll wander around for
a bit until you find it's boss.  There's an Andarial type boss, an
Izual type boss and a Duriel type boss (they're tougher than the
bosses they're a copy of).  You kill them and get a body part from
them.  You then use the three different body parts in the horadric
cube (while in Horagath) to get the portal to Uber Tristram.  Once in
there you have a Mephisto clone, a Baal clone and a Diablo clone to
kill.  The Mephisto clone tends to be the nastiest as it has an aura
that does *really* nasty things to your resistances.  When you kill
the third of these clones (doesn't matter what order) it will drop a
torch with +3 to all skills of some particular class.  ie +3 sorc
skills or +3 druid skills.  It also has like +20 stats, +20 resistance
and a chance to cast Diablo's creeping fire thingy on attack.  It's
the same size as a medium charm.

I used to farm them up using a Fireball/Frozen orb sorc to gather the
keys, make the portals and teleport to the minibosses, then open a
town portal to let my smiter in on my second computer to do the actual
killing of the bosses.  The smiter also handled Uber Tristram's three
clones.


Ashen Shugar
-- 
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule!

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:10:21 GMT, deathsabyss@yahoo.com.au (Ashen
Shugar) wrote:

>I think it was ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com> that wrote something
>like...
>
>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:44:16 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:28:58 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:14:32 -0800, Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:51 -0500, ald <103175.3500@compuserve.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>Sadly, all of the MP characters in my sig are only alive there still,
>>>>>>they got lost in one or another of my forced absences from playing
>>>>>>online,  although the SP ones are still around here *some*where, I
>>>>>>just haven't played them in forever (last time I was playing SP I was
>>>>>>working a rotation of about 2 characters in each of three mods and the
>>>>>>original game, but (thankfully?) they never got high enough level to
>>>>>>make it into my sig).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2003 was late enough for you to have seen UT, right? Heh, I should
>>>>>>talk, I still haven't worked an MP character high enough to even
>>>>>>*think* about trying it ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>What is UT? Don't remember that acronym.
>>>>
>>>>Uber Tristram, where you fight three of the act end bosses on steroids
>>>>;-) Hopefully someone who's a bit more familiar with it can refresh my
>>>>memory as to exactly who it is, and the rewards that are possible.
>>>
>>>That a mod?
>>>
>>
>>No, it's in the regular game. IIRC, you collect keys from Nilithak,
>>the Countess, and one other in Hell, and use them to open the portals
>>to Uber Tristram. Could somebody *please* jump in here and clarify
>>this? I'm about at the end of my memory here, and *way* beyond my
>>experience.
>
>In hell diff you run the Countess, the summoner in Act 2 and Nilithak.
>You want to collect 3 keys from each of them for a total of 9 keys.
>Then while you're in Horagath (act 5 town), you put 1 of each type
>into the horadric cube and use the cube to turn them into a portal.
>There are 3 possible portals that can appear, though you can't get
>more than one portal of the same type in the same game, which is why
>you want 9 keys, so you can do the transmute three times and be sure
>of getting all 3 portals.  Inside the portals you'll wander around for
>a bit until you find it's boss.  There's an Andarial type boss, an
>Izual type boss and a Duriel type boss (they're tougher than the
>bosses they're a copy of).  You kill them and get a body part from
>them.  You then use the three different body parts in the horadric
>cube (while in Horagath) to get the portal to Uber Tristram.  Once in
>there you have a Mephisto clone, a Baal clone and a Diablo clone to
>kill.  The Mephisto clone tends to be the nastiest as it has an aura
>that does *really* nasty things to your resistances.  When you kill
>the third of these clones (doesn't matter what order) it will drop a
>torch with +3 to all skills of some particular class.  ie +3 sorc
>skills or +3 druid skills.  It also has like +20 stats, +20 resistance
>and a chance to cast Diablo's creeping fire thingy on attack.  It's
>the same size as a medium charm.
>
>I used to farm them up using a Fireball/Frozen orb sorc to gather the
>keys, make the portals and teleport to the minibosses, then open a
>town portal to let my smiter in on my second computer to do the actual
>killing of the bosses.  The smiter also handled Uber Tristram's three
>clones.

Hmm. Never saw that, must have been added after I bailed. /waves...
Hi Ashen :-)

Sounds like an interesting diversion for once you've mastered hell
level (something I never did, personally), but hardly a post-LoD
expansion pack ;-) I remember getting frustrated from running a
bazillion meph/baal runs (and cow runs) and never seeing a Windforce
(or several other overly-elusive items), so I got to playing mods that
allowed you to pretty easily avail yourself of everything in the game.
Real monty-haul stuff. Wasn't long after that I hung 'er up, if I
recall. The duping and all that was so incredibly pervasive too at
that time, that it just lost my interest. There was no real economy
anymore. I'm hoping they master the art of preventing that stuff, in
D3. Guess we'll find out.
    -Marshall

On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:10:21 GMT, deathsabyss@yahoo.com.au (Ashen
Shugar) wrote:

>In hell diff you run the Countess, the summoner in Act 2 and Nilithak.
>You want to collect 3 keys from each of them for a total of 9 keys.
>Then while you're in Horagath (act 5 town), you put 1 of each type
>into the horadric cube and use the cube to turn them into a portal.
>There are 3 possible portals that can appear, though you can't get
>more than one portal of the same type in the same game, which is why
>you want 9 keys, so you can do the transmute three times and be sure
>of getting all 3 portals.  Inside the portals you'll wander around for
>a bit until you find it's boss.  There's an Andarial type boss, an
>Izual type boss and a Duriel type boss (they're tougher than the
>bosses they're a copy of).  You kill them and get a body part from
>them.  You then use the three different body parts in the horadric
>cube (while in Horagath) to get the portal to Uber Tristram.  Once in
>there you have a Mephisto clone, a Baal clone and a Diablo clone to
>kill.  The Mephisto clone tends to be the nastiest as it has an aura
>that does *really* nasty things to your resistances.  When you kill
>the third of these clones (doesn't matter what order) it will drop a
>torch with +3 to all skills of some particular class.  ie +3 sorc
>skills or +3 druid skills.  It also has like +20 stats, +20 resistance
>and a chance to cast Diablo's creeping fire thingy on attack.  It's
>the same size as a medium charm.
>
>I used to farm them up using a Fireball/Frozen orb sorc to gather the
>keys, make the portals and teleport to the minibosses, then open a
>town portal to let my smiter in on my second computer to do the actual
>killing of the bosses.  The smiter also handled Uber Tristram's three
>clones.
>
>
>Ashen Shugar

Thank you! ;-)

ald
"Knowledge is Power"
VK`Sister`ald level 47 Rogue (HF V&K) (RIP :-( )
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Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:10:21 GMT, deathsabyss@yahoo.com.au (Ashen
> Shugar) wrote:

> >I used to farm them up using a Fireball/Frozen orb sorc to gather the
> >keys, make the portals and teleport to the minibosses, then open a
> >town portal to let my smiter in on my second computer to do the actual
> >killing of the bosses.  The smiter also handled Uber Tristram's three
> >clones.
> 
> Hmm. Never saw that, must have been added after I bailed. /waves...
> Hi Ashen :-)
> 
> Sounds like an interesting diversion for once you've mastered hell
> level (something I never did, personally), but hardly a post-LoD
> expansion pack ;-) I remember getting frustrated from running a
> bazillion meph/baal runs (and cow runs) and never seeing a Windforce
> (or several other overly-elusive items), so I got to playing mods that
> allowed you to pretty easily avail yourself of everything in the game.

The drop rates of elite items has been changed. It's now possible to get
elite items through regular playing, particularly the elite sets. The
entire economy has also changed because of new runewords. Pul runes are
now currency, for instance, and uber runewords are attainable with some
savvy trading. There is an economy, it's just a very different one than
before (trading 40 perfect gems for puls then trading puls and ums for
vexes and jahs or whatnot is relatively normal).

These days, nobody wants a Windforce though. With the release of 1.10,
the entire way in which we played and the most desirable character
classes have changed. 

Uber Tristram is a challenge, though not an insurmountable one. It's
good fun.

These days, 0t (who coincidentally brought up your name in the past few
weeks as it popped into his head), my sister, my hubby, and I play once
a week. We played a few teams, a motley crew of puritans and are now
doing puritan scorching paladins who are struggling in Hell because of
their craptacular gear, but that's the way we like it. We have other
characters with good gear, but where's the fun in that? ;-) 

0tarin, my sister and I defected to Guild Wars because we're too cheap
to pay monthly fees. Also, we're mainly gaming to chat (now via Skype, I
know what the great and powerful wombat stuffer sounds like) and goof
off. We are, as always, Carl. We have our own neglected web site where
we attempt to bestow our philosphy on others whether they want us to or
not. http://the3carls.blogspot.com/

And, hello stranger. :-) I haven't been posting or reading AGD and only
popped by today.

We'll all be back for Diablo 3.

Orchid

Moosen <nospam@buhbye.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:36:22 +0900, orchid64takemeout@alltel.net
> (Orchid) wrote:

> >my sister, my hubby, and I play once
> >a week. We played a few teams, a motley crew of puritans and are now
> >doing puritan scorching paladins 
> 
> I must confess a complete ignorance of what a puritan scorching
> paladin is... was this a recent development? Like, since 2003?

Heh. Puritan = no twinking (must find their own gear)
Scorching = scorched earth - must kill everything in every nook and
cranny at least once (we can't leave the table until we clean our
plates)

> >0tarin, my sister and I 
> 
> Otarin, Orchid... your names are sweet music to my poor old ears! I
> haven't thought about either of you in so long, the sight of your name
> on this post brought a big smile of remembrance to my face :-) My
> humble apologies for having the memory of a protozoan- but hey, I can
> claim CRS with a straight face. How the hell is Ot doing these days?
> Damn, it has been a while.

Ah, how little 0t has grown! He's been doing pretty well, at least in my
estimation. He graduated from college and has been gainfully employed
for, I believe, 2 years now. It amazes me that I first stumbled upon him
when he was at the tender age of 19 and now he's 26. 

> >defected to Guild Wars because we're too cheap
> >to pay monthly fees. Also, we're mainly gaming to chat (now via Skype, I
> >know what the great and powerful wombat stuffer sounds like) 
> 
> Which one? I seem to remember a lot of them in AGD at one time...

0t is and always be the wombat stuffing king. 


> Well, you'd best drop in and visit more often. I intend to be around
> regularly to post random thoughts on whatever, maybe even on D3. 

I think a lot of  us dropped out when the newsgroup was consumed by
voracious political cross-posting. That seems to have disappeared for
now. I'll keep an eye open and try to pop by. I'll encourage 0t to do so
as well. That being said, I no longer actually call him "0t", but I do
make fun of him all the time (he loves it though).

Orchid

Moosen wrote:
> Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
> cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
> in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
> posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
> Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
> names elude me at the moment.
> 

Hail! :)

> Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
> Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
> of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
> old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
> splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
> 

Except me, cause I won't have a machine capable of running it. ;) LOL

On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:32:14 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Moosen wrote:
>> Been a damn long time since I've wandered through here, looks like the
>> cobwebs are startin' to get a bit thick over the old lime-jello hottub
>> in the clubhouse. Readin back through a few of the actual threads
>> posted in the past six months or so, I see some familiar old names.
>> Heya ald, Mickey, Evilbill, Mousehill, Duncan and the others whose
>> names elude me at the moment.
>> 
>
>Hail! :)

Hola, Bill-san!

>> Just thought I'd dust off a seat and prepare for the Third Coming of
>> Diablo, however long off in the future that may be. One thing I'm sure
>> of, is it will be great. And it will no doubt bring back many of the
>> old crew once again. Be good to see more of the barrel huggers and
>> splinter lovers once again, in all their wildass glory :-)
>> 
>
>Except me, cause I won't have a machine capable of running it. ;) LOL

Well, lessee... taking a wild guess that D3 might be out in 1.5 years,
that's 547 days. A pretty decent gameplayin' PC right now can be had
for a lot less than $1000, and I'm sure there will be even more
powerful PC's available then for the same price if not even lower
yet... but, going with the $1000 figure, just for the sake of having a
number to plug into my calculator, that's about $1.83 a day from now
till then. Chump change! You spend more than that on tic tacs, fess
up!  :-D   Now get to savin', no excuses!  
    -Marshall

Moosen wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:32:14 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>> Except me, cause I won't have a machine capable of running it. ;) LOL
> 
> Well, lessee... taking a wild guess that D3 might be out in 1.5 years,
> that's 547 days. A pretty decent gameplayin' PC right now can be had
> for a lot less than $1000, and I'm sure there will be even more
> powerful PC's available then for the same price if not even lower
> yet... but, going with the $1000 figure, just for the sake of having a
> number to plug into my calculator, that's about $1.83 a day from now
> till then. Chump change! You spend more than that on tic tacs, fess
> up!  :-D   Now get to savin', no excuses!  
>     -Marshall

Here's my excuse: I have absolutely zero income, and unfortunately right 
now I *can't* work. :( Sad but true!

On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:34:05 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Moosen wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:32:14 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Except me, cause I won't have a machine capable of running it. ;) LOL
>> 
>> Well, lessee... taking a wild guess that D3 might be out in 1.5 years,
>> that's 547 days. A pretty decent gameplayin' PC right now can be had
>> for a lot less than $1000, and I'm sure there will be even more
>> powerful PC's available then for the same price if not even lower
>> yet... but, going with the $1000 figure, just for the sake of having a
>> number to plug into my calculator, that's about $1.83 a day from now
>> till then. Chump change! You spend more than that on tic tacs, fess
>> up!  :-D   Now get to savin', no excuses!  
>>     -Marshall
>
>Here's my excuse: I have absolutely zero income, and unfortunately right 
>now I *can't* work. :( Sad but true!

Well, ok then... we'll just have to get Orchid and 0tarin to buy you
one, that's all there is to it. I'll get them right on it!
    -Marshall

Moosen wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:34:05 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Moosen wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:32:14 -0500, EvilBill <quake2lives@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Except me, cause I won't have a machine capable of running it. ;) LOL
>>> Well, lessee... taking a wild guess that D3 might be out in 1.5 years,
>>> that's 547 days. A pretty decent gameplayin' PC right now can be had
>>> for a lot less than $1000, and I'm sure there will be even more
>>> powerful PC's available then for the same price if not even lower
>>> yet... but, going with the $1000 figure, just for the sake of having a
>>> number to plug into my calculator, that's about $1.83 a day from now
>>> till then. Chump change! You spend more than that on tic tacs, fess
>>> up!  :-D   Now get to savin', no excuses!  
>>>     -Marshall
>> Here's my excuse: I have absolutely zero income, and unfortunately right 
>> now I *can't* work. :( Sad but true!
> 
> Well, ok then... we'll just have to get Orchid and 0tarin to buy you
> one, that's all there is to it. I'll get them right on it!
>     -Marshall

Sounds good to me! ;) LOL