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Article #545191Re: Is global leadership a matter of military strength?
From: B'inyamin Cramer
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:11
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:11
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"Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:45bc1254$0$5748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "B'inyamin Cramer" <neverayidinsight@nienteayidhere.cam> wrote in message > news:jK-dnWHg3IQ6mCHYnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@giganews.com... >> >> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >> news:45bb77de$0$5744$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>> >>> "B'inyamin Cramer" <noyidinsight@notayidhere.cam> wrote in message >>> news:19Sdnbw7RrtIjibYnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> >>>> "Peter Webb" <webbfamily...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >>>> news:45bb06a4$0$5748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >>>>>>>>>>> The USA did not provide any material support to Iraq during the >>>>>>>>>>> Iran Iraq war, and never supported Saddam. They didn't even >>>>>>>>>>> recognise him as the leader of Iraq or his regime as the >>>>>>>>>>> legitimate government of Iraq (unlike almost every other >>>>>>>>>>> country). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What the fuck? Are you for real? Are you serious? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course. Israel and the US supplied weapons to Iran; they >>>>>>>>> supplied none at all to Iraq. You have it backwards. Learn a >>>>>>>>> little history. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Horsefuckingshit I've got it backward, you dopey cunt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What the fuck to you think Rumsfeld was doing in Iraq, shaking the >>>>>>>> hand of Saddam over. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know; nether Saddam nor Rumsfeld have ever disclosed what was >>>>> discussed. My guess is that Rumsfeld was telling Saddam that the US >>>>> would not allow Westinghouse (a US company) to supply a nuclear >>>>> reactor to Iran (the US refused to supply an export certificate, so >>>>> Saddam bought off the French who had no such moral quibbles). >>>>> >>>>> Of course, it could have been almost anything else - Iraq's human >>>>> rights record, an attempt at a diplomatic resolution of the Iraq/Iran >>>>> war, or a billion other things. >>>>> >>>>> It certainly wasn't the US supplying weapons to Saddam, because they >>>>> didn't. >>>> >>>> Oh yes they did. >>> >>> OK, what weapon or weapons did the US sell to Saddam? >> >> In 1982 the US decided to back Iraq because Iran was winning on the >> battlefield. Reagan stated the US "could not afford to allow Iraq to lose >> the war to Iran and would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent >> Iraq from losing the war with Iran." >> >> Check Reagan's National Security Decision Directive of June 1982. >> >> Reagan involved the US in providing Iraq with intelligence, economic aid >> etc. including the provision of weapons. >> >> You may apologise at any time you feel comfortable doing so. >> >> > > I will, when you say what weapon or weapons USA or Israel ever supplied to > Saddam. > > The weapons were: I don't know what weapons they supplied. Your original assertion was that no weapons were supplied. I showed you were wrong. Methinks a gentleman would accept he was wrong, and apologise for his fuckup.
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