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Screw these guys!!! Save the news groups from spammers!!!!

#544742
From: Brandon Barhorst
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 00:00
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To all News Groups Sorry To post like this but do you hate people who spam
to sell stuff!! These guys actually put there address in this post!!! Make
it a goal to sign them up to receive every piece of junk mail possible
though the web!! Don't Sign them up where it will cost them money or it is
illegal!!! Just make them receive so much mail it will be annoying and they
will learn there lesson!! If everyone signs them up for  two items and 300
people do it they will be cascaded onto so many junk mail lists it will
show them why they should not post on the news groups. I am going to post
there Addresses here but look lower in the post if you do not believe me!!

>            Matthew Stanislawski
>            5919 N West Circle Ave.
>            Chicago, IL 60631
> 
>            S.J. Yeggi
>            4115 Ventura Canyon Ave.
>            Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
> 
>            Patrick Powell
>            2235 Stratford Ave. #2
>            Cincinnati, OH 45219-1201
> 
>            Matthew Rivard
>            8020 N. Hickory #1312
>            Kansas City, MO 64118
> 
>            Frechols Backstop
>            RR 01 Box 256
>            Lamesa, Texas 79331

News groups unite to fight these types of people who invade and annoy the
users who are here for the information and to enjoy other peoples opinions.
Sign them up for anything THAT IS NOT ILLEGALLY DONE. Do it for the web!!
Do it for yourself!!!

									Brandon

Lowell <low...@pics.net> wrote in article <34256519...@pics.net>...
> Path:
>
igor.rutgers.edu!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!rutgers!njitgw.njit.edu!nntp-server.
caltech.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!
news.umkc.edu!news
> 
> From: mri...@cctr.umkc.edu (Matt Rivard)
> Newsgroups:
>
alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead,alt.tv.frasier,alt.tv.friends,alt.drugs.pot,alt.fan
.brad-pitt,alt.fan.howard-stern,alt.fan.kate-moss,alt.fan.keanu-reeves,alt.f
an.pam-anderson,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.music.g
reen-day,alt.music.pearl-jam,alt.tv.bh90210,de.alt.binaries.pictures.female,
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz,rec.music.rem,rec.nude,za.ads
.misc
> 
> Subject: EARN EASY MONEY ON THE NET!!!
> Date: 31 Jan 1996 00:52:58 GMT
> Organization: Your Organization
> Lines: 114
> Message-ID: <4emeha$f...@kasey.umkc.edu>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip51.umkc.edu
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7
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> alt.tv.frasier:4031 alt.tv.friends:24409 alt.drugs.pot:40957
> alt.fan.brad-pitt:2056 alt.fan.howard-stern:48577
> alt.fan.keanu-reeves:125 alt.internet.access.wanted:36500
> alt.internet.services:67484 alt.music.green-day:5878
> alt.music.pearl-jam:49279 alt.tv.bh90210:30409 rec.music.hip-hop:26855
> rec.music.rem:43766 rec.nude:67420
> 
> Two things you should know upfront:
> 
> 
> 1. You CAN NOT make 50,000 in a month or even six months by following
> the
> instructions found in this letter, or similar ones found on the net.
> 
> 
> 2.  You CAN make up to 1,200 or even more in just a few months.  With
> this
> money you can do anything you want, pay bills, buy a new computer,
> anything
>  at all.
> 
> 
> These are the facts. I have tried this twice before, following
> instructions in
> letters downloaded from internet newsgroups.  You've seen them, I'm
> sure.  The
> first thing they promise is a quick way to earn $50,000 or more, with no
> work
> and only $5 invested.  You have probably considered trying it yourself,
> then
> told yourself that it wasn't worth the effort, and it couldn't possibly
> be
> true.  Fact is, it isn't true.  BUT IT IS WORTH TRYING!  Think for a
> moment...your total expense for the program is $6.60 (five dollar bills
> and
> five postage stamps).  Even if you don't get a single response, you are
> out
> less than $10 and maybe an hour or two of your time.   BUT YOU WILL GET
> A
> RESPONSE!  As I have mentioned, I have tried this twice before, and have
> made
> some money.  Take a look at these figures:
> 
>         Post the letter to five different(but interesting) newsgroups.
> Use
> your judgement to       decide which ones might be the most responsive.
> For
> example, a group with only five         items posted is probably not
> often
> visited.  Assume that the newsgroups you posted the     item to will be
> visited
> 50 times a day, or 1,500 times a month (this is a low estimate).
> This
> means that 7,500 people might read your message.  Of course, 80% of
> those might
>         dismiss your message as worthless.  But that leaves 1,500 people
> who
> might try it.  They     will send out letters just like ours, but as
> many as
> 75% of those will be creeps who will    use your letter and not send you
> any
> money (PLEASE BE HONEST -- YOU CAN MAKE THIS WAY, DO    NOT STIFF THE
> PEOPLE
> WHO PRESENT YOU WITH THE OPPORTUNITY!)  After that, you see the
> remaining 25% return, or $375 sent directly to you!  Then, each time the
> letter
> is      re-used, for four additional levels, you also get $1.00 per
> use.  If
> they get the same       response as you, it adds up to $1,500 more, for
> a total
> return on your investment of    $1,875!
> 
> I have tried this twice -- the first time I made about $1,200, and the
> second
> earned me just over $2,000.!
> 
> That is why I am trying this again.  It worked for me, and you should
> give a
> try as well.  Just remember, BE HONEST!
> 
> So, how does this work?  Simple.  You have probably seen this before.
> 
> What it is, is a perfectly legal(see Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of
> Postal
> Lottery Laws) program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing
> list.
> 
> Basically, you will start your own small company that collects and
> stores
> mailing lists.  NOTE: You can sell these mailing lists to other
> companies and
> make even mote money, but I have not done that with mine.  My goal is to
> make
> some money, not deluge those who send me the money with piles of junk
> mail.
> 
> STEP ONE - Print this letter.  Save it in case you want to try it again
> later.
> 
> STEP TWO - Send a snail-mail letter to each of the following people,
> reading
> simply "Please add me to your mailing list", and containing your full
> name and
> mailing address, and $1.00 in cash:
> 
> 
> 
>         1. Matthew Stanislawski
>            5919 N West Circle Ave.
>            Chicago, IL 60631
> 
>         2. S.J. Yeggi
>            4115 Ventura Canyon Ave.
>            Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
> 
>         3. Patrick Powell
>            2235 Stratford Ave. #2
>            Cincinnati, OH 45219-1201
> 
>         4. Matthew Rivard
>            8020 N. Hickory #1312
>            Kansas City, MO 64118
> 
>         5.Frechols Backstop
>            RR 01 Box 256
>            Lamesa, Texas 79331
> 
> STEP THREE - Edit this letter to read the way you want it to.  Include
> some
> information about yourself.  DO NOT LIE!  I have stated in this letter
> that I
> have tried this twice, but if you cannot say this honestly, don't say
> it.  When
> you get to the top of the list of names above, remove the top name(#1)
> and move
> the others up.  Then add your name to the list in the #5 position.  In
> this
> way, you can earn money from the investments of others after you, as you
> are
> helping those that came before.
> 
> STEP FOUR - Post your letter to as many newsgroups or local BBS numbers
> as you
> wish.  You can even send copies of it snail mail but this is not as
> considerate.  When you post it on a newsgroup, the people who want to
> read it
> can, but they are not forced to receive it as junk mail.  Also when you
> post
> it, give it a title that will draw people to it.  I have used the title
> "YOU
> CAN START YOUR OWN CASH BUSINESS".
> 
> STEP FIVE - When the money starts coming in (and it may take two or
> three
> weeks, don't panic and dont give up), save all the letters you receive
> in a box
> or closet somewhere.  ALWAYS KEEP THE ORIGINAL LETTERS.  This way, you
> will
> have proof that your business is legal and legitimate, in case you are
> ever
> asked.
> 
> STEP SIX - use the money you have received as you wish.  You have earned
> it.
> Then try it again.  Just don't forget to send the money to the people on
> the
> list!  They are just like you and nobody makes any money if this letter
> regenerates without any money changing hands.
> 
> That is all.   Thank you for taking the time to read this.  I hope you
> decide
> to give it a try, and I hope it gives you the same results I have seen
> in the
> past.
> 
>         Thank You.
> 
> 
> Path: igor.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!not-for-mail
> From: wat...@aramis.rutgers.edu (Donald Watrous)
> Newsgroups:
>
alt.tv.beavis-n-butthead,alt.tv.frasier,alt.tv.friends,alt.drugs.pot,alt.fan
.brad-pitt,alt.fan.howard-stern,alt.fan.kate-moss,alt.fan.keanu-reeves,alt.f
an.pam-anderson,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.music.g
reen-day,alt.music.pearl-jam,alt.tv.bh90210,de.alt.binaries.pictures.female,
rec.music.hip-hop,rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz,rec.music.rem,rec.nude,za.ads
.misc
> 
> Subject: Re: EARN EASY MONEY ON THE NET!!!
> Date: 31 Jan 1996 18:52:35 -0500
> Organization: Rutgers University LCSR
> Lines: 39
> Message-ID: <4eovc3$m...@aramis.rutgers.edu>
> References: <4emeha$f...@kasey.umkc.edu>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: aramis.rutgers.edu
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> alt.fan.keanu-reeves:128 alt.internet.access.wanted:36523
> alt.internet.services:67547 alt.music.green-day:5906
> alt.music.pearl-jam:49348 alt.tv.bh90210:30440 rec.music.hip-hop:26889
> rec.music.rem:43853 rec.nude:67525
> 
> mri...@cctr.umkc.edu (Matt Rivard) writes:
> 
> >What it is, is a perfectly legal(see Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341
> >of Postal Lottery Laws) program of collecting names and addresses for
> >a mailing list.
> 
> You want to know if this is "perfectly legal?"  See
> 
>         http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm
> 
> for the US Postal Service's view on such schemes.
> 
> >Basically, you will start your own small company that collects and
> >stores mailing lists.  NOTE: You can sell these mailing lists to other
> >companies and make even mote money, but I have not done that with
> >mine.  My goal is to make some money, not deluge those who send me the
> >money with piles of junk mail.
> 
> Here you explain the pretense of legality and immediately give it up
> in your candor.  The above cited reference even addresses this angle:
> 
>    Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive
>    reports on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics.
>    The primary purpose is to take your money, not to sell information.
>    "Selling" a product does not ensure legality. Be doubly suspicious if
> 
> Sorry to follow this up to so many groups.  I hope the education of a
> few who might be tempted to perpetuate this might be worth the added
> article everywhere.
> 
> Chain letters, because of the fraudulent nature, are a pet peeve of
> mine.  Check out
> 
>         http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/chain-letters.html
> 
> Don
> --
> Donald Watrous                       LCSR Systems, Rutgers University
> wat...@cs.rutgers.edu            http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Screw these guys!!! Save the news groups from spammers!!!!
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