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Article #544684

Re: Quit Whining About Piracy

#544684
From: jbe... The Eikenberrys
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 00:00
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In article <33cf6181...@news.alt.net>,
   big_bad@mindspring..com (Big Bad Wolf) wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:30:48 GMT, rab...@mindspring.com (rabBit)
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>Only if the person using the unauthorized copy would have otherwise
>>>purchased it.
>>>--
>>>ClassAct
>>
>>
>>But that comes back to the question, what makes you so special that
>>you think you should be able to obtain privalages of use for free when
>>other people have to pay?
>>
>>Yes, when you pirate software, I do lose money, regardless if you were
>>going to buy it or not, becuase you are using the privalages reserved
>>for paying customers without due payment.
>>
>>
>>
>
>rabbit you are so full of shit its unbelievable. so you dont like
>pirates - fine. so you think piracy is wrong - fine.  but why do you 
>have to keep spouting pure 100% bullshit to try to back up your
>points? if your right - couldnt you back up your position with truth?
>
>your "freedom" is lost when someone piractes.....
>
>BULLSHIT - one cant lose freedom by the act of an individual
>we lose freedoms from acts of the government - not individuals
>maybe you lose money but money isnt freedom
>maybe you lose a job but a job isnt freedom
>maybe we lose a product choice or two ( im really streching it here tp
>make a point ) but that isnt freedom either
Umm, where in the world did he say he lost "freedom"? He said he lost money 
from people not paying for the game. 
>
>you lose money from a sale that wouldnt have occured.....
>
>BULLSHIT - are you trying to tell us your monthly paycheck is based
>soley on PROJECTED income of your employer? or are you paid based on 
>ACTUAL income like the other 99.9% of people in this country.
>if your boss runs his business soloely based on PROJECTED income
>get a new job - for your boss is living in fantasy world.
Well, i would strongly assume his paycheck would be HIGHER if they sold more 
programs, therefore techincally his paycheck is smaller because of piracy.

>
>
>its obvious that you are a real opinionated asshole on this ( and
>probably all subjects ) - and thats O. K. ( after all , youre big
>enuff and youre smart enuff, and - gosh darn it - PEOPLE LIKE YOU ! );
>but get real.  for the last few days youve done nothing but spout
>bullshit, doublespeak and semantics to try to back up your position.
>it seems ClassAct really got your goat; to the point where youre so
>pissed you can barely think straight - much less debate intelligently.
>whats next from you:
>pirating a COPY of a program is EXACTLY the same as STEALING a CAR?
In essence, it is. You steal something without paying for it. Maybe it's on a 
smaller scale, but it's the same thing. 

>i dont think even YOU"D stoop to that low of a bullshit point to try
>to make your case but you really seem to be falling apart these days.>

>im worried.......

>BBW

>BTW - piracy is inevidable - why not get over it and live an extra
>10-15 years? if you wanna be an activist there are plenty of causes
>out there that ( unlike piracy ) are for the benefit of people - not
>faceless corporations; and they could use your help.  you really seem
>to be a heart attack waiting to happen.  relax.  =]
Yeah, well i suppose by your reasoning, murder is inevitable, arson is 
inevitable, crime in general is inevitable. So why don't we just say "aaah, 
screw it" and play outside? Because it's wrong. It was wrong, is wrong, and 
forever shall be wrong.
He's being an activist against it because it's affecting him more or less 
directly-- he makes software... and then his software is pirated... so he has 
his rights to do what he wants to. I for one will not give you any sympathy 
when some crime happens to you and you become a die-hard activist against it, 
because i shall call you a hypocrite.
Have a nice day.
Lordfly



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Subject: Re: Quit Whining About Piracy
Date: 1997/07/23
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