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~misfit~ wrote:
> EvilBill wrote:
>>
>> True, but I don't have any spare AGP ones, just a PCI TNT2, and I
>> think that'd struggle just to run XP, let alone some of the other
>> games I enjoy. <g>
>
> Actually, you'd be surprised. It'll run D2 in 2D mode just fine. As
> for running XP, don't tell me you have the eye-candy turned on? The
> first thing I do with a fresh XP install is right-click the desktop,
> go to "Themes" and click "Windows Classic". Then right click "My
> Computer", Properties, Advanced, Performance, Settings and tick the
> "Adjust for best performance" box. Then a 2MB PCI Cirrus Logic card
> (remember those?) will run XP.

The last time I had one of *those*, it was January 1998 and I was running 
Windows 95 OSR2 on a Cyrix 150MHz machine with 32 megs of RAM and a 2 gig 
hard drive. LOL!

> Ok, the TNT2 won't run a lot of other games but it *will* run D2 in
> 2D mode (it'll give you the option of 3D when you run the video test,
> don't make the mistake of ticking it). I find that there is so little
> difference between the two modes in D2 that it's no big deal. A
> Celeron 500 and a TNT2 (or one of the multiple 8MB S3 Virge's that I
> seem to have accrued) will run it just fine.
>

D2, maybe - but I'm not even sure what the impact on my system will be of 
replacing a mid-end AGP card with a truly ancient PCI one. I don't know if 
my monitor will even display anything on it! Plus the current nVidia drivers 
don't do TNT2s any more, I'd have to uninstall 94.24 and go back to 61.77 to 
even get the drivers to recognise the card, LOL...

> Heh! There goes your excuse lad! Shame you're not more local to me, I
> have a ti4200 and a FX5600 both sitting in boxes. My /third/ machine
> is also running a ti4200 that is a bit overkill for what it does. (I
> made a point of spending any spare cash on any second-hand AGP cards
> I saw at a reasonable price over the last year. I'm not likely to be
> in a position to update my PCs soon so am trying to get some "spares"
> before all AGP cards disappear off the market and the second-hand
> price gets too high).

I did have an FX5200 back along, unfortunately I sold it on eBay last year!

> Oh, I have a 32MB TNT2 Ultra AGP sitting on the shelf too. <g> One of
> my machines, the one Shady uses as her second machine for D2, runs a
> PCI 32MB GF2.

I remember those. <g> Had a 64MB one back in the day when I was running an 
old Duron 800 rig with 128 megs of RAM. LOL

> It doesn't have an AGP slot and the on-board graphics
> are abysmal (but will still run D2 playably, amazingly). I have
> another mobo the same, both running 1.4Ghz Celerons. (Nice, efficient
> CPUs. Shame I'm a bit short of RAM for them and it's twice the price
> of modern RAM..) However, PCI graphics cards with any grunt are like
> hen's teeth.

PCI graphics cards are like hen's teeth full stop! AGP ones will be soon, 
too; I don't think anything better than a 7600GS is available on AGP 
nowadays.

Mind you, my machine's PSU and cooling wouldn't be up to taking a 768Mb 
8800GTX anyway ;)

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