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11 total messages Started by Mike Patterson Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:34
Descent II with Linux?
#89842
Author: Mike Patterson
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:34
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Is there a port to Linux? 
Or will DII run under WINE?

Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.
TIA
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89843
Author: Moon
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:43
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Mike Patterson schrieb:

> Is there a port to Linux? 

Sure, 
http://dxx-rebirth.de/?Downloads:D2X-Rebirth
-- 
Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3
http://moon.descentforum.net/Descendarium/
Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQ
http://moon.descentforum.net/D3FAQ/
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89844
Author: karx11erx
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:46
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On 19 Jun., 16:34, Mike Patterson
<mikepatter...@spamtrapmindspring.com> wrote:
> Is there a port to Linux?
> Or will DII run under WINE?
>
> Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.
> TIA
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
> "I always wanted to be somebody...I should have been more specific..." - Lily Tomlin

Other than Moon (who is biased) is suggesting, there is more than one
Linux port of Descent 2 available: You can try D2X-XL
(www.descent2.de), which offers a lot of new features and upgraded
graphics (and to be honest, leaves D2X-Rebirth behind it in the dust
in every respect - regardless of what some people are claiming), but
can also be made to look exactly like the old 3dfx version of the
original game (which implies that D2X-Rebirth is not necessarily
closer to the original game - another biased claim). There are very
precise installation instructions available on the web site, and you
are welcome to register in the forum and ask questions there. A D2X-XL
user even has D2X-XL running very well under WINE with a 3 monitor
setup (!) - which speaks volumes about the improvement D2X-XL
constitutes over every other Descent 2 version around. D2X-XL even
allows to play Descent 1 missions with it (the only limitation here is
that it is using the Descent 2 AI).

karx11erx
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89845
Author: steveski
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:14
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karx11erx wrote:

> On 19 Jun., 16:34, Mike Patterson
> <mikepatter...@spamtrapmindspring.com> wrote:
>> Is there a port to Linux?
>> Or will DII run under WINE?
>>
>> Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.


> Other than Moon (who is biased) is suggesting, there is more than one
> Linux port of Descent 2 available: You can try D2X-XL
> (www.descent2.de), which offers a lot of new features and upgraded
> graphics (and to be honest, leaves D2X-Rebirth behind it in the dust
> in every respect - regardless of what some people are claiming), but
> can also be made to look exactly like the old 3dfx version of the
> original game (which implies that D2X-Rebirth is not necessarily
> closer to the original game - another biased claim). There are very
> precise installation instructions available on the web site, and you
> are welcome to register in the forum and ask questions there. A D2X-XL
> user even has D2X-XL running very well under WINE with a 3 monitor
> setup (!) - which speaks volumes about the improvement D2X-XL
> constitutes over every other Descent 2 version around. D2X-XL even
> allows to play Descent 1 missions with it (the only limitation here is
> that it is using the Descent 2 AI).

And you, of course, are not biased? Oh, no, no, no . . .

--
Steveski (waiting for Karx to get all foamy).
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89846
Author: karx11erx
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 05:04
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On 29 Jun., 00:14, steveski <steve...@invalid.com> wrote:
> karx11erx wrote:
> > On 19 Jun., 16:34, Mike Patterson
> > <mikepatter...@spamtrapmindspring.com> wrote:
> >> Is there a port to Linux?
> >> Or will DII run under WINE?
>
> >> Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.
> > Other than Moon (who is biased) is suggesting, there is more than one
> > Linux port of Descent 2 available: You can try D2X-XL
> > (www.descent2.de), which offers a lot of new features and upgraded
> > graphics (and to be honest, leaves D2X-Rebirth behind it in the dust
> > in every respect - regardless of what some people are claiming), but
> > can also be made to look exactly like the old 3dfx version of the
> > original game (which implies that D2X-Rebirth is not necessarily
> > closer to the original game - another biased claim). There are very
> > precise installation instructions available on the web site, and you
> > are welcome to register in the forum and ask questions there. A D2X-XL
> > user even has D2X-XL running very well under WINE with a 3 monitor
> > setup (!) - which speaks volumes about the improvement D2X-XL
> > constitutes over every other Descent 2 version around. D2X-XL even
> > allows to play Descent 1 missions with it (the only limitation here is
> > that it is using the Descent 2 AI).
>
> And you, of course, are not biased? Oh, no, no, no . . .
>
> --
> Steveski (waiting for Karx to get all foamy).

The question is whether I am omitting facts, or giving wrong or
partial information like Moon, and the answer is I never did. I have
recommended Rebirth often enough if it was the better choice, or at
least told people about both possibilities, explaining the differences
between XL and Rebirth in a fair way.

Waiting for you to grow a brain or at least a decent attitude seems to
be a waste of time. Is trying to thing really that painful for you?
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89847
Author: steveski
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:22
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karx11erx wrote:

> On 29 Jun., 00:14, steveski <steve...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> karx11erx wrote:
>> > On 19 Jun., 16:34, Mike Patterson
>> > <mikepatter...@spamtrapmindspring.com> wrote:
>> >> Is there a port to Linux?
>> >> Or will DII run under WINE?
>>
>> >> Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.
>> > Other than Moon (who is biased) is suggesting, there is more than one
>> > Linux port of Descent 2 available: You can try D2X-XL
>> > (www.descent2.de), which offers a lot of new features and upgraded
>> > graphics (and to be honest, leaves D2X-Rebirth behind it in the dust
>> > in every respect - regardless of what some people are claiming), but
>> > can also be made to look exactly like the old 3dfx version of the
>> > original game (which implies that D2X-Rebirth is not necessarily
>> > closer to the original game - another biased claim). There are very
>> > precise installation instructions available on the web site, and you
>> > are welcome to register in the forum and ask questions there. A D2X-XL
>> > user even has D2X-XL running very well under WINE with a 3 monitor
>> > setup (!) - which speaks volumes about the improvement D2X-XL
>> > constitutes over every other Descent 2 version around. D2X-XL even
>> > allows to play Descent 1 missions with it (the only limitation here is
>> > that it is using the Descent 2 AI).
>>
>> And you, of course, are not biased? Oh, no, no, no . . .
>>
>> --
>> Steveski (waiting for Karx to get all foamy).
> 
> The question is whether I am omitting facts, or giving wrong or
> partial information like Moon, and the answer is I never did. I have
> recommended Rebirth often enough if it was the better choice, or at
> least told people about both possibilities, explaining the differences
> between XL and Rebirth in a fair way.
> 
> Waiting for you to grow a brain or at least a decent attitude seems to
> be a waste of time. Is trying to thing really that painful for you?

LOL - Karx talking about a 'decent attitude' - check out your reputation
amongst other Descenters.

--
Steveski
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89848
Author: karx11erx
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:55
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On 29 Jun., 13:22, steveski <steve...@invalid.com> wrote:
> karx11erx wrote:
> > On 29 Jun., 00:14, steveski <steve...@invalid.com> wrote:
> >> karx11erx wrote:
> >> > On 19 Jun., 16:34, Mike Patterson
> >> > <mikepatter...@spamtrapmindspring.com> wrote:
> >> >> Is there a port to Linux?
> >> >> Or will DII run under WINE?
>
> >> >> Looking to go to UBUNTU and leave M$ behind.
> >> > Other than Moon (who is biased) is suggesting, there is more than one
> >> > Linux port of Descent 2 available: You can try D2X-XL
> >> > (www.descent2.de), which offers a lot of new features and upgraded
> >> > graphics (and to be honest, leaves D2X-Rebirth behind it in the dust
> >> > in every respect - regardless of what some people are claiming), but
> >> > can also be made to look exactly like the old 3dfx version of the
> >> > original game (which implies that D2X-Rebirth is not necessarily
> >> > closer to the original game - another biased claim). There are very
> >> > precise installation instructions available on the web site, and you
> >> > are welcome to register in the forum and ask questions there. A D2X-XL
> >> > user even has D2X-XL running very well under WINE with a 3 monitor
> >> > setup (!) - which speaks volumes about the improvement D2X-XL
> >> > constitutes over every other Descent 2 version around. D2X-XL even
> >> > allows to play Descent 1 missions with it (the only limitation here is
> >> > that it is using the Descent 2 AI).
>
> >> And you, of course, are not biased? Oh, no, no, no . . .
>
> >> --
> >> Steveski (waiting for Karx to get all foamy).
>
> > The question is whether I am omitting facts, or giving wrong or
> > partial information like Moon, and the answer is I never did. I have
> > recommended Rebirth often enough if it was the better choice, or at
> > least told people about both possibilities, explaining the differences
> > between XL and Rebirth in a fair way.
>
> > Waiting for you to grow a brain or at least a decent attitude seems to
> > be a waste of time. Is trying to thing really that painful for you?
>
> LOL - Karx talking about a 'decent attitude' - check out your reputation
> amongst other Descenters.
>
> --
> Steveski

Always below the belt, right? And that gets you exactly in line with
the "other Descentrs" you are referring to. I prefer listening to the
people who know me and - unlike you - who appreciate what I have been
doing for them. Not much substantial you are having to reply here. You
are using D2X-XL though, characterless low life that you are?
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89849
Author: Moon
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:45
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karx11erx schrieb:

> Always below the belt, right? And that gets you exactly in line with
> the "other Descentrs" you are referring to. I prefer listening to the
> people who know me and - unlike you - who appreciate what I have been
> doing for them. Not much substantial you are having to reply here. You
> are using D2X-XL though, characterless low life that you are?

Didn't work out as well as you expected your little rant, eh? LOL!

Let me tell that again since you're apparently too stupid to get it: Zico
is doing more than enough for this community and unlike you did not develop
an unjustified god complex. 

                           WE DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING!

And if I'm advertizing the better port that's totally my prerogative so
stop whining if steveski is playing DXX-Rebirth as he should.
-- 
Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3
http://moon.descentforum.net/Descendarium/
Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQ
http://moon.descentforum.net/D3FAQ/
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89850
Author: karx11erx
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:17
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On 30 Jun., 08:45, Moon <M...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:
> karx11erx schrieb:
>
> > Always below the belt, right? And that gets you exactly in line with
> > the "other Descentrs" you are referring to. I prefer listening to the
> > people who know me and - unlike you - who appreciate what I have been
> > doing for them. Not much substantial you are having to reply here. You
> > are using D2X-XL though, characterless low life that you are?
>
> Didn't work out as well as you expected your little rant, eh? LOL!
>
> Let me tell that again since you're apparently too stupid to get it: Zico
> is doing more than enough for this community and unlike you did not develop
> an unjustified god complex.
>
>                            WE DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING!
>
> And if I'm advertizing the better port that's totally my prerogative so
> stop whining if steveski is playing DXX-Rebirth as he should.
> --
> Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3http://moon.descentforum.net/Descendarium/
> Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQhttp://moon.descentforum.net/D3FAQ/

D2X-XL is the superior port for quite a number of reasons, and while I
can found my claim on facts, you can't.

The problem is that you believe that I owe you anything. I have seen
it often enough from your arrogant bug reports when something in D2X-
XL didn't work out immediately for you, and I have told you that.

Besides that it is entirely up to my disposition to bring clarity into
the FUD you are spreading. Like it or not, but this is a place where
everybody can post his opinion, not just you.

Your apparently irrestible urge to utter insults says enough about
your lackluster character, boy. Looks like I have scratched that
arrogant elitist surface of yours.
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89851
Author: Moon
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:22
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karx11erx schrieb:

> D2X-XL is the superior port for quite a number of reasons, and while I
> can found my claim on facts, you can't.

It just so happens nobody gives a fuck and comes to join us with
DXX-Rebirth.
-- 
Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3
http://moon.descentforum.net/Descendarium/
Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQ
http://moon.descentforum.net/D3FAQ/
Re: Descent II with Linux?
#89852
Author: karx11erx
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:19
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On 1 Jul., 09:22, Moon <M...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:
> karx11erx schrieb:
>
> > D2X-XL is the superior port for quite a number of reasons, and while I
> > can found my claim on facts, you can't.
>
> It just so happens nobody gives a fuck and comes to join us with
> DXX-Rebirth.
> --
> Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3http://moon.descentforum.net/Descendarium/
> Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQhttp://moon.descentforum.net/D3FAQ/

Each D2X-XL version has about 5000 - 6000 downloads. There are a few
people who actually prefer Rebirth's dated look over D2X-XL's improved
graphis, but there's enough Rebirth users who turned away from XL for
the one and only reason that I wouldn't tolerate their behaviour
towards me, and you are one of them. At least you are having the
character not to use XL (Or do you?). My commendation.

It is just so that you constantly make a lot of not just unfounded,
but completely clueless and false claims like the above, or just
generally that XL would be inferior to Rebirth - oh sure it is. It's
renderer is just two or more times faster than Rebirth's, it has
particle effects, colored light, per pixel lighting, high resolution
textures and 3D models, and and and. Sure, that gives Rebirth a
huuuuuuuuge edge. Geez, this is so stupid that it makes a brick look
smart in comparison.

 and that is so because your pathetic swollen ego couldn't take being
told that I am fed up with your arrogant, ungrateful attitude towards
me when I tried everything to make D2X-XL work everytime you had a
problem with it. I had once given you a special treatment for what you
had done for the Descent community, but you haven't deserved it,
because you took it as a carte blanche to behave like a spoiled brat
towards me.

Now go fuck yourself.
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