🚀 go-pugleaf

Descent 3
Yager (new)


On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:54 GMT, Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
>Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
>Thanks,
>-zorro

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:54 GMT, Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
>Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
>Thanks,
>-zorro
 ===================

 If you want more levels, go to ftp://ftp.pooterman.com

 He has hundreds of levels.

  Jack

Zorro schrieb:
> I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
> Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
At the risk of people hitting me with foam bats, Forsaken.

-- 
Florian "The Outrider" Piesche (outrider@mag-murphy.net - http://www.mag-murphy.net)
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be
running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive
electronic music." - Kristian Wilson (Nintendo Inc.), 1989

Florian 'The Outrider' Piesche wrote:
> Zorro schrieb:
>> I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
>> Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
> At the risk of people hitting me with foam bats, Forsaken.

Who said anything about foam?

:-)

Steveski
[AB] Daggett

"Steveski" <steveski7SPAMbeGONE@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:btsl5m$assui$1@ID-36653.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Florian 'The Outrider' Piesche wrote:
> > Zorro schrieb:
> >> I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
> >> Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
> > At the risk of people hitting me with foam bats, Forsaken.
>
> Who said anything about foam?

Heh! I like the aluminum myself: nice crisp "DING" when it bounces off the
head!
Forsaken indeed!
CJ

> At the risk of people hitting me with foam bats, Forsaken.

    Few people are aware of another Descent clone called Radix: Beyond the
Void.  It had a 2.5D engine and as I recall had improved framerates compared
to Descent2 at the time.

    You flew through tunnels with descent-like weapons, and well, that's
enough to get you started.  You can try the shareware at
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/radix/

    If anyone has a copy of this or a warez link, I'd be interested as a
collector.

rms

Forsaken

Earlier rms muttered:

>> At the risk of people hitting me with foam bats, Forsaken.
>
>    Few people are aware of another Descent clone called Radix: Beyond the
>Void.  It had a 2.5D engine and as I recall had improved framerates compared
>to Descent2 at the time.
>
>    You flew through tunnels with descent-like weapons, and well, that's
>enough to get you started.  You can try the shareware at
>http://www.3dgamers.com/games/radix/
>
>    If anyone has a copy of this or a warez link, I'd be interested as a
>collector.

Hmmm, and what about that thing called Freespace?


-- 
pixel

So many idiots - so few comets.

Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hello friends,
> 
> I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
> Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?

I don't know if anything interesting has been released in the last year
but summing-up from similar questions in this group from 2001 & 2002 we
get (and repeating some of the other answers):

A) Completely similar, 360-degrees rotation, maze-flying games:

A0a) (1994) Descent {Parallax Software}    (DOS ? | MacOS)
A0b) (1996) Descent II {Parallax Software} (DOS 5.0|Windows 4.x | MacOS)

A1) (1997) Terracide {Simis}            (Direct3D(DirectX 5), Glide)
                Demo (1997-09-25) (11.4 MB)

A2) (1998) Forsaken {Probe Ent.}        (Direct3D(DirectX 5))
                Demo (1998-07-22) (17.9 MB)
        <news:alt.games.forsaken> (even lower volume then a.g.d)

A3) (1999) Descent III {Outrage Ent.}   (Direct3D(DirectX ?), OpenGL)


B) Suggestions for "similar feeling" games that Descenters might like:

                (a 2.5 Dimension style game)
B1) (1995) Radix: Beyond the Void {Neural Storm Ent.}   (DOS)

                (an advanced helicopter-like vehicle)
B2) (1997) G-Police {Psygnosis}                 (Direct3D(DirectX ?)

        (a Descent-like ship in tunnels, but you can't fly upside-down)
B3) (1998) Adrenix {Digital Dialects}   (Direct3D(DirectX ?))
                Demo (1998-01-20) (13.7 MB)

                (a helicopter vehicle)
B4) (1999) Lander {Psygnosis}                   (Direct3D(DirectX ?)

                (a futuristic submarine game)
B5a) (2001) Aquanox {Massive Development} (D3D(DirectX ?),OpenGL, Glide)
B5b) (2002) Aquanox 2: Revelation {Massive Dev.} (D3D(DirectX ?),OpenGL)

(And maybe the FreeSpace games should be in the list also?)

HTH

-- 
Please followup in newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

Pixel "#~ schrieb:
> Hmmm, and what about that thing called Freespace?
It's not really a Descent game; it was called Descent: Freespace in the 
US, apparently to benefit from the Descent franchise. The Freespace 
series are normal - but nonetheless good - space opera games a la TIE 
Fighter, Starlancer (which I actually believe to be a mediocre attempt 
to clone Freespace) etc. The only thing it really has in common with 
Descent is the name and some of the developers behind it.
The Non-US title of Freespace was actually "Conflict: Freespace" instead 
of "Descent: Freespace".


Hope this helps,

Florian

-- 
Florian "The Outrider" Piesche (outrider@mag-murphy.net - http://www.mag-murphy.net)
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be
running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive
electronic music." - Kristian Wilson (Nintendo Inc.), 1989

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:09:18 +0100, marine69@hotmail.com (Maraverse
Explorer) wrote:

>Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends,
>> 
>> I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
>> Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
>
>I don't know if anything interesting has been released in the last year
>but summing-up from similar questions in this group from 2001 & 2002 we
>get (and repeating some of the other answers):
>

[...]
>
>                (a helicopter vehicle)
>B4) (1999) Lander {Psygnosis}                   (Direct3D(DirectX ?)
>
>                (a futuristic submarine game)
>B5a) (2001) Aquanox {Massive Development} (D3D(DirectX ?),OpenGL, Glide)
>B5b) (2002) Aquanox 2: Revelation {Massive Dev.} (D3D(DirectX ?),OpenGL)
>
>(And maybe the FreeSpace games should be in the list also?)
>

The types of games in the list involve "six-degrees" of movement (or
close enough to).  The FreeSpace games cut down on lateral and
vertical movement leaving only four degrees, resulting in a different
feel for the game than Descent.  

FreeSpace would feel more like a flight-sim such as Red Baron, Crimson
Skies, Wing Commander, etc.  It wouldn't capture the same feeling
Descent-style games provide, thus you might want to add it into
another section if you do. 

Raymond Martineau <bk039@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:

> >B5b) (2002) Aquanox 2: Revelation {Massive Dev.} (D3D(DirectX ?),OpenGL)
> >
> >(And maybe the FreeSpace games should be in the list also?)
> >
> 
> The types of games in the list involve "six-degrees" of movement (or
> close enough to).  The FreeSpace games cut down on lateral and
> vertical movement leaving only four degrees, resulting in a different
> feel for the game than Descent.  
> 
> FreeSpace would feel more like a flight-sim such as Red Baron, Crimson
> Skies, Wing Commander, etc.  It wouldn't capture the same feeling
> Descent-style games provide, thus you might want to add it into
> another section if you do. 

Ok, that was someone elses suggestion to the the OP. The "six-degrees"
freedom of movement (or almost) games would be the "A"-list.

You can't swim/fly upside-down in the submarine and helicopter games
either i think. But i played around a little more with the Adrenix Demo
since yesterday and i was wrong. You can do a 360-degree loop front to
back but not a 360 degree rolling sideways, so i feel it should have
been placed on the "A"-list.

Except for the 2 AquaNox Demo's they are all small enough so that most
anyone can DL them and make up their own minds.

-- 
Please followup in newsgroup.
E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

Florian 'The Outrider' Piesche wrote:

> The Non-US title of Freespace was actually "Conflict: Freespace" instead 
> of "Descent: Freespace".

Because Descent did not sell too well in Europe, we must be out of our 
minds...
-- 
Moon's Descendarium - THE single-player guide to D1-D3
http://moon.descent-3.com
Maintainer of The 'Official' D3 FAQ
http://www.descent-3.com/faq/

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:54 GMT, Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Hello friends,
>
>I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
>Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
>Thanks,
>-zorro


Thanks to all who did reply. I'm in process of testing all
suggested games :)

Currently my favorite (most D3-like) is Forsaken. I would
like to buy this game (I guess by now it should cost around
$10 or so). Googled around but couldn't find it. Does anybody
know some online store where I can buy it? (Would prefer to
pay-and-download).

The suggestion to get more levels is also good (duno why I
didn't think about it myself). I used to use in the past a
program DETLEF32. I have DW the latest version, but all the
sites the program tries to contact are unreachable - I guess
the list is old, and sites are gone, or changed their URL.
Does anybody use this progy for missions? How? This is not
a big problem, one can always just search for levels...

The only other game I liked, and bought was Quake. Q1, Q2
were ok, But I personally didn't like Q3. True, I usually
play with myself :) - but still I don't get it, just run
and shut everything. One thing about the Quake3, the
graphic is SUPER!

Finally, one more note for those who seek to get a little
more thrill out of their D3. If you didn't do it already
upgrade your video card! I had a cheap TNT2/64MB video
card. The card did ok with D3 on 800x600, but after I
upgraded to GForce-5700/128MB ($200), and run D3 in the
1600x1200 (or so) resolution it felt like a new game!!

Thanks again for your input,
-zorro

P.S.
If anyone want to trade Forsaken for Quake3 let me know.

"Zorro" <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3ntd10t0oh774a2do8n75ohfuj0cv6uage@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:04:54 GMT, Zorro <zorro@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Hello friends,
> >
> >I'm not much of the gammer, but I did get hooked on Descent.
> >Can anybody recommend a game similar to Descent (360/fly)?
> >Thanks,
> >-zorro
>
>
> Thanks to all who did reply. I'm in process of testing all
> suggested games :)
>
> Currently my favorite (most D3-like) is Forsaken. I would
> like to buy this game (I guess by now it should cost around
> $10 or so). Googled around but couldn't find it. Does anybody
> know some online store where I can buy it? (Would prefer to
> pay-and-download).
>
> The suggestion to get more levels is also good (duno why I
> didn't think about it myself). I used to use in the past a
> program DETLEF32. I have DW the latest version, but all the
> sites the program tries to contact are unreachable - I guess
> the list is old, and sites are gone, or changed their URL.
> Does anybody use this progy for missions? How? This is not
> a big problem, one can always just search for levels...
>
> The only other game I liked, and bought was Quake. Q1, Q2
> were ok, But I personally didn't like Q3. True, I usually
> play with myself :) - but still I don't get it, just run
> and shut everything. One thing about the Quake3, the
> graphic is SUPER!
>
> Finally, one more note for those who seek to get a little
> more thrill out of their D3. If you didn't do it already
> upgrade your video card! I had a cheap TNT2/64MB video
> card. The card did ok with D3 on 800x600, but after I
> upgraded to GForce-5700/128MB ($200), and run D3 in the
> 1600x1200 (or so) resolution it felt like a new game!!
>
> Thanks again for your input,
> -zorro
>
> P.S.
> If anyone want to trade Forsaken for Quake3 let me know.
>

you might not be able to find lander in stores.
as a result you can download it for free at "home of the underdogs".  i
can't remember the url, so just type that into google.
there is also a demo available on teh net.
if you are having trouble getting either of them running, try running them
in compatability mode.  (and try installing the full game of lander to
C:\lander), or just give me a buzz.
it's one of my favourite games.

Think u would prob like Terracide ..VERY similar to Descent ..though opening
section may seem a different style.
has modern 3d ecelarated  graphics.. rather repetitve (OHH got vy can not I
spell propers?)
...anyway...u can get this in a full version from Home of the Underdogs like
other posts Lander..
which sounds interesting thimk i will try it ...tanks :}
http://www.the-underdogs.org/

For games in general there ar a lot of so called Abandonware sites (such as
Underdogs)
which collect for download older no longer on sale - out of copywrite
titles.
http://www.flashback-aw.net/ is a good starting point...
]
I agree with u bout Quake 3 ....boring for single player.
I think Unreal (the 1st one) and Half-Life (shirley EVERbuNny has Half-Life
!!!:?) is the best from that period ('97 to 2000) first person shooters..
System Shock 2 (from underdogs)
is classic allso..
luv Trimble

Florian 'The Outrider' Piesche <outr...@mag-murphy.net> wrote in 
news:bu1bcv$c9vd9$1...@ID-3837.news.uni-berlin.de:

> Pixel "#~ schrieb:
>> Hmmm, and what about that thing called Freespace?
> It's not really a Descent game; it was called Descent: Freespace in the 
> US, apparently to benefit from the Descent franchise. The Freespace 
> series are normal - but nonetheless good - space opera games a la TIE 
> Fighter, Starlancer (which I actually believe to be a mediocre attempt 
> to clone Freespace) etc. The only thing it really has in common with 
> Descent is the name and some of the developers behind it.

The original plan was for it to be just plain Freespace; however, there was 
a trademark conflict with a piece of compression software by that name, 
hence the prefixes.

> The Non-US title of Freespace was actually "Conflict: Freespace" instead 
> of "Descent: Freespace".

Moon pretty much summed up my feelings on that, if you replace "our" with 
"their", since I live maybe fifteen minutes walking distance from Outrage, 
and am thus squarely in the US. :)

-- 
Andrew Timson
===============
Grr. Argh.

Also try www.gametz.com

rms