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Re: Good, cheap joystick works well with DESCENT

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From: jay... Jim Vieira
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 03:36
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Jonathan Edwards (edw...@world.std.com) wrote:
: > In article <3e95mo$h...@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>,
: > vt...@uoguelph.ca (Vincent Tan) wrote:
: >
: > You use a mouse while playing games like Doom?

: A mouse provides better fine control.
: Joysticks all have a "dead" area around the rest position. So to do 
: fine-tuning you need to rock back and forth across this dead zone. 
: Mice have no dead zone. You can smoothly adjust at the quantum resolution
: of the mouse (the unit for which I believe is the mickey).

: -- 
: Jonathan Edwards				edw...@intranet.com
: IntraNet, Inc					617-527-7020
: One Gateway Center				FAX: 617-527-6779

One of the reasons I think people don't understand why some of us use the 
mouse in Doom is they have tried it once, and didn't understand how to 
use it effectivley.  The biggest key is have a good mouse driver (like 
MSMouse 9.0 with Mouse Manager) so you can turn up the sensitivity of the 
mouse really high.  Then you can turn 180 degrees in like about a 1-2 
inch slide of the mouse.  I know some people will say 'there is more to 
Doom than 180 degree snap turns' and they are right.  But once you get 
used to 'how much you have to move the mouse in relation to how far you 
move' you will quickly be able to know exactly how much to move the mouse 
in order to turn x degrees.  The REAL secret in my opinion is not to use 
the mouse for movement. Only for turning.  I use S/X for up and down and 
Z/C for strafe left and right (I got trained on these keys by System 
Shock).  Then I can hold down shift with my pinky and use the other 
figners to control movement.  I use the other hand on the mouse to turn 
when moving forward and backwards.  I never use the mouse to strafe of 
move, only to turn and fire.  This way, it kinda feels like your left 
hand is controlling your feet while your right hand is controlling your 
hands and aiming.  For example, I can hold down C to strafe right, while 
slowly moving the mouse to the left.  Instant circle strafe (for those who 
don't know what a circle strafe is, you can 'circle' your enemy while always 
facing him.  Think about how I described it above and you will understand).
This for me was the difference in the game.  I played keyboard for months
and when I tried this mouse setup, it took only about 3-4 games (maybe 
an hour of playing) to get used to it.  Now I will never go back. Nothing
like just zipping the mouse left and right to make INSTANT turns in any 
direction.  Even holding down shift while turning in keyboard mode isn't 
even 25% as fast as the INSTANT turn.  And joystick mode is also difficult 
(with a Gravis you turn way to fast, and with a flightstick it is awkward 
IMHO).  Joysticks are for games like Descent (If only mine would work with 
it !!! Argh! Waiting on the 1.1 patch :)

--
						Jim Vieira
						jay...@earth.execpc.com
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Subject: Re: Good, cheap joystick works well with DESCENT
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