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It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18

- Jason

On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, beefjerk wrote:

> 
> Several people know about this by now.
> So it's time to go public:
> 
> You can build buildings(& gun towers ;-)
> and place them anywhere on the map!
> 
> Like say for instance, in the middle of
> the other guys base...
> 
> 1.Start a game, build a Communications
> Center. You need the radar map for this.
> 
> 2.Build a unit, click on it.
> 
> 3.Build a building.(any...)
> 
> 4.Click on the icon for the new building.
> 
> 5.Click anywhere on the little map to place!
> 
> This works even in places where you've 
> never explored. Just click in the middle of
> the darkness. If there is room, it will be placed.
> 
> You still can't place things where there are
> other buildings, tiberium, trees, units, etc...
> 
> I'm making this public to slow down cheaters
> who would use this against people.
> 
> "How'd that get there?"
> "Uh, I built some stuff, then sold 'em off..."
> 
> This will help out those people complaining
> about the AI placing SAM sites & Turrets
> all over the map. Now you can too!
> 
> It's fun to drop an Advanced Guard Tower
> in the back corner of the other guys base.
> (where he has no defenses) but only as a joke.
> 
> If both sides agree to use it, this could also 
> spice up the game. But only if everyone knows
> about it, so it's equal...
> 
> Send all flames to:
> 
>          -Tom
> 
>   beef...@ix.netcom.com
> 
> 

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|     OK, so whats a Taumeson?!     |
+-----------------------------------+
|   Jason Swearingen                |
|   taum...@u.washington.edu       |
|   Seattle WA, USA                 |
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On Sat, 2 Dec 1995 14:45:23 -0800, "J. Swearingen" <taum...@u.washington.edu>
wrote:

>It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18)

Try again...

I got this in the mail today from someone who figured out how to use it:

From: law...@uclink4.berkeley.edu (peach)
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 11:18:02 -0800

hey I figured out how to get it to work 100% of the time. All you have to do
is to make sure that when you want to place it, have the unit appear in
white on the actual picture. you know, its like you're placing it in your base,
instead you can do it anywhere.<snip>

I've left the original post below for those who didn't see it.

Good luck!

    -Tom

>On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, beefjerk wrote:
>
>> Several people know about this by now.
>> So it's time to go public:
>> 
>> You can build buildings(& gun towers ;-)
>> and place them anywhere on the map!
>> 
>> Like say for instance, in the middle of
>> the other guys base...
>> 
>> 1.Start a game, build a Communications
>> Center. You need the radar map for this.
>> 
>> 2.Build a unit, click on it.
>> 
>> 3.Build a building.(any...)
>> 
>> 4.Click on the icon for the new building.
>> 
>> 5.Click anywhere on the little map to place!
>> 
>> This works even in places where you've 
>> never explored. Just click in the middle of
>> the darkness. If there is room, it will be placed.
>> 
>> You still can't place things where there are
>> other buildings, tiberium, trees, units, etc...
>> 
>> I'm making this public to slow down cheaters
>> who would use this against people.
>> 
>> "How'd that get there?"
>> "Uh, I built some stuff, then sold 'em off..."
>> 
>> This will help out those people complaining
>> about the AI placing SAM sites & Turrets
>> all over the map. Now you can too!
>> 
>> It's fun to drop an Advanced Guard Tower
>> in the back corner of the other guys base.
>> (where he has no defenses) but only as a joke.
>> 
>> If both sides agree to use it, this could also 
>> spice up the game. But only if everyone knows
>> about it, so it's equal...
>> 
>> Send all flames to:
>> 
>>          -Tom

  beef...@ix.netcom.com

beef...@ix.netcom.com (beefjerk) wrote:

> On Sat, 2 Dec 1995 14:45:23 -0800, "J. Swearingen" <taum...@u.washington.edu>
> wrote:
> 
> >It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18)
> 
> Try again...
> 
> I got this in the mail today from someone who figured out how to use it:

Well, I still haven't been able to figure it out....




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"J. Swearingen" <taum...@u.washington.edu> wrote:


>It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18

>- Jason

Yeah it does.  I got it to work with 1.18.  It takes a bit of fiddling
around before you can get it to work every time.  What I had to do was
build the structure, then click on a unit, click on the building icon,
right click on the playing field, then click on the building icon and
place it on the map.  You may have to experiment a bit, but it does
work.

Mike

J. Swearingen wrote:

> It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18

> > Several people know about this by now.
> > So it's time to go public:
> >
> > You can build buildings(& gun towers ;-)
> > and place them anywhere on the map!

<directions deleted>

Acually it probably won't work for you because the directions seem a little 
wrong. IMHO you have to do this *very* carefully to get it to work.

> > 1.Start a game, build a Communications
> > Center. You need the radar map for this.

Correct

> > 2.Build a unit, click on it.
> >
> > 3.Build a building.(any...)
> >
> > 4.Click on the icon for the new building.

Not quite. Once the unit (building) has been built, click on a mobile unit on 
the main screen (Tank, trooper whatever) then move the cursor to the small 
map window in the top right of the map (Do *not* move it to the list of built 
items)
Once the cursor turns to the "move vehical" cursor in the small map, move it 
down to the ready built building (Make sure you don't move it onto the main 
screen)
Click on the building and move the cursor back up to the small radar map 
screen (Without moving on the main screen remember) then place the building 
wherever you want on the radar map. I believe the order of the cursor 
movement is *VITAL*

The bug seems to be that C&C clears its *remembered* selected item on the 
main screen. So as long as you keep away from the main screen, C&C believes 
that you are still trying to tell a vehical where to go. Once you click on 
the map, the checks to allow work (Cause you *can* move the vehical there) 
then on the click of the mouse, C&C checks to see what to do, build? Ok! 
Here? Fine!)

I suppose I could try to be a little more technical but its late and I don't 
want to make a fool of myself :-)

> > 5.Click anywhere on the little map to place!
> >
> > This works even in places where you've
> > never explored. Just click in the middle of
> > the darkness. If there is room, it will be placed.
> >
> > You still can't place things where there are
> > other buildings, tiberium, trees, units, etc...
> >
> > I'm making this public to slow down cheaters
> > who would use this against people.
> >
> > "How'd that get there?"
> > "Uh, I built some stuff, then sold 'em off..."

Rest of this is pretty much correct. However I believe this bug pretty much 
destroys the multi-player game unless you can trust your opponent. I have 
been hammered by this bug on one or two occasions myself. Anyway, its pretty 
similar to the "sandbag" bug so if you agree not to use it, so much the 
better.
Oh yes.
 I haven't tried this on the lastest versions of C&C. I believe mine is still 
one of the earlier vers, so perhaps its been fixed?

Share and Enjoy

Jason,

It does work in 1.18. I've done it in a few games just to make sure.
(No, I did not do it to win, just to test). I told my opponent to check
out near his power plant (which I could see, but it works in any area
of the map that the building can it) and dropped a row of sandbags
there.  Believe me, it works. Be sure to tell your opponents you know
about it and agree either agree that it cannot be used or start placing
guard towers or other offensive buildings in his area.  He'll soon
agree not to use the trick.

In <Pine.A32.3.91j.95120...@homer17.u.washington.edu>
"J. Swearingen" <taum...@u.washington.edu> writes: 
>
>
>It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18
>
>- Jason
>
>On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, beefjerk wrote:
>
>> 
>> Several people know about this by now.
>> So it's time to go public:
>> 
>> You can build buildings(& gun towers ;-)
>> and place them anywhere on the map!
>> 
>> Like say for instance, in the middle of
>> the other guys base...
>> 
>> 1.Start a game, build a Communications
>> Center. You need the radar map for this.
>> 
>> 2.Build a unit, click on it.
>> 
>> 3.Build a building.(any...)
>> 
>> 4.Click on the icon for the new building.
>> 
>> 5.Click anywhere on the little map to place!
>> 
>> This works even in places where you've 
>> never explored. Just click in the middle of
>> the darkness. If there is room, it will be placed.
>> 
>> You still can't place things where there are
>> other buildings, tiberium, trees, units, etc...
>> 
>> I'm making this public to slow down cheaters
>> who would use this against people.
>> 
>> "How'd that get there?"
>> "Uh, I built some stuff, then sold 'em off..."
>> 
>> This will help out those people complaining
>> about the AI placing SAM sites & Turrets
>> all over the map. Now you can too!
>> 
>> It's fun to drop an Advanced Guard Tower
>> in the back corner of the other guys base.
>> (where he has no defenses) but only as a joke.
>> 
>> If both sides agree to use it, this could also 
>> spice up the game. But only if everyone knows
>> about it, so it's equal...
>> 
>> Send all flames to:
>> 
>>          -Tom
>> 
>>   beef...@ix.netcom.com
>> 
>> 
>
>=====================================
>|     OK, so whats a Taumeson?!     |
>+-----------------------------------+
>|   Jason Swearingen                |
>|   taum...@u.washington.edu       |
>|   Seattle WA, USA                 |
>+-----------------------------------+
>

Ok, theres a trick to it...

1. You need the communications unit.
2. Select a unit
3. Select the building you want to place so that you get the hatched cursor on the main map.
4. Adjust the main map so that there is a point on the map that you can build. (the hatching goes white).
5. Move the map so that this square is on the far right, next to the side bar.
6. Move the mouse to this square, and then slide it onto the sidebar: the computer now thinks that you can build...
7. Move the mouse up to the small map, and place it whereever the hell you like.

If this does not work then either:
1. The unit got deselected (killed maybe). (the cursor on the small map becomes a circle with a line thru it).
2. The mouse dipped onto a red-hatched area.

It works *every* time.

human


gry...@ix.netcom.com (Luke Woodford) wrote:
>Jason,
>
>It does work in 1.18. I've done it in a few games just to make sure.
>(No, I did not do it to win, just to test). I told my opponent to check
>out near his power plant (which I could see, but it works in any area
>of the map that the building can it) and dropped a row of sandbags
>there.  Believe me, it works. Be sure to tell your opponents you know
>about it and agree either agree that it cannot be used or start placing
>guard towers or other offensive buildings in his area.  He'll soon
>agree not to use the trick.
>
>In <Pine.A32.3.91j.95120...@homer17.u.washington.edu>
>"J. Swearingen" <taum...@u.washington.edu> writes: 
>>
>>
>>It doesnt work....  (at least I didnt get it to work with 1.18
>>
>>- Jason
>>
>>On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, beefjerk wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Several people know about this by now.
>>> So it's time to go public:
>>> 
>>> You can build buildings(& gun towers ;-)
>>> and place them anywhere on the map!
>>> 
>>> Like say for instance, in the middle of
>>> the other guys base...
>>> 
>>> 1.Start a game, build a Communications
>>> Center. You need the radar map for this.
>>> 
>>> 2.Build a unit, click on it.
>>> 
>>> 3.Build a building.(any...)
>>> 
>>> 4.Click on the icon for the new building.
>>> 
>>> 5.Click anywhere on the little map to place!
>>> 
>>> This works even in places where you've 
>>> never explored. Just click in the middle of
>>> the darkness. If there is room, it will be placed.
>>> 
>>> You still can't place things where there are
>>> other buildings, tiberium, trees, units, etc...
>>> 
>>> I'm making this public to slow down cheaters
>>> who would use this against people.
>>> 
>>> "How'd that get there?"
>>> "Uh, I built some stuff, then sold 'em off..."
>>> 
>>> This will help out those people complaining
>>> about the AI placing SAM sites & Turrets
>>> all over the map. Now you can too!
>>> 
>>> It's fun to drop an Advanced Guard Tower
>>> in the back corner of the other guys base.
>>> (where he has no defenses) but only as a joke.
>>> 
>>> If both sides agree to use it, this could also 
>>> spice up the game. But only if everyone knows
>>> about it, so it's equal...
>>> 
>>> Send all flames to:
>>> 
>>>          -Tom
>>> 
>>>   beef...@ix.netcom.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>
>>=====================================
>>|     OK, so whats a Taumeson?!     |
>>+-----------------------------------+
>>|   Jason Swearingen                |
>>|   taum...@u.washington.edu       |
>>|   Seattle WA, USA                 |
>>+-----------------------------------+
>>
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