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"satan" <satan@hellwantsyou.org> wrote in message
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> First and foremost as a general rule before buying
> a game you should look on the package to see if it
> uses GameSpy and if that is the case then drop it like a hot potato,
> because you are asking for trouble.
> 
> ...

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Somebody make it go away

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- Tim G.

"satan" <satan@hellwantsyou.org> wrote in message
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> First and foremost as a general rule before buying
> a game you should look on the package to see if it
> uses GameSpy and if that is the case then drop it like a hot potato,
> because you are asking for trouble.
>
> Look you do not have to take my word for it,
> just look how GameSpy handles security issues when
> it is notified about it, follow the links and
> take some time to read them, and if you are
> concerned about your computer security stay away
> from the games that are using GameSpy.
>
> http://aluigi.altervista.org/misc/75395-1.pdf
> http://aluigi.altervista.org/papers/castleoflies.txt
>
> With respect to your individual privacy, again,
> you should ask GameSpy to see if their product is
> in compliance with European Union Privacy legislation,
> no prizes given for your guess.
> Simple question for the managers from GameSpy:
>
> Does your product comply with the existing European Union
> privacy legislation and for that matter where I live, Australia?
>

Then again, there are a lot of EA games that also have IP-to-IP.  Myself, I
never go to GameSpy, mainly because the program stinks.

Sounds to me like you have some sort of Big Beef with EA.  There are quite a
number of excellent EA games, and I at least am not going to let GameSpy
stop me from trying these games.

Alanb
> Why not?
>
> And who is to blame for it, Electronic Arts for distributing
> a product which does not comply with the law of the land.
> I am looking forward to the answer from the
> Office of the Attorney General.
>
> Now, with respect Electronic Arts, the only product that I own
> is C&C Generals and C&C Generals Zero Hour and they suck big time.
>
> Look, in solo play, I have to admit it, the game plays
> quite well, reasonable AI, however the gameplay user
> interface is a rip-off from World War 3 Black Gold,
> where is the compliance with U.S. Copyrights in that.
>
> If you consider playing the game online, forget it,
> I have ADSL 512K, and there are times when the game speed
> drops to less than 1 (one) frame per second, and Electronic Arts
> tries to blame the ISPs of the individuals, ha, do it again
> Electronic Arts because I can see class legal action.
>
> What you should look for before deciding to buy an Electronic Arts
product,
> is user interface, the metric of this is quite simple,
> if you have to go through more than two screens in order to play
> any feature of the game, then, forget it, they are using splash screens
> in order to hide the poor performance of the game.
>
> Before you buy, try to get the trial version of the game,
> if you are happy with it by all means go and throw your money
> away, however, make sure that the trial version supports online gaming,
> because if it doesn't, it is most likely that the online feature of
> the game is crap as it is the case with C&C Generals and C&C Generals Zero
> Hour.
> Check to see if after you quit the game it leaves any garbage
> in the memory, because if it does it is most likely that
> it will affect the overall performance of your computer
> until you restart your computer.
>
> On the other hand if are a owner of the crap, you have all my sympathy.
>
>
>
>

> Then again, there are a lot of EA games that also have IP-to-IP.  Myself,
I
> never go to GameSpy, mainly because the program stinks.

Here, here. I always use All Seeing Eye - much better.

>>From the shadows, the mysterious "David Sadtwat" <david@unknown.co.m>
(if that IS his real name) conspiratorially whispered:

>Here, here. I always use All Seeing Eye - much better.

obNitpick: the term is "hear, hear", as in "hear what he has to say".

"Ben Sisson" wrote:
> >Here, here. I always use All Seeing Eye - much better.
>
> obNitpick: the term is "hear, hear", as in "hear what he has to say".

Actually, short for "hear him, hear him."

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:44:52 +1100, "satan" <satan@hellwantsyou.org>
enlightened me with:

>First and foremost as a general rule before buying
>a game you should look on the package to see if it
>uses GameSpy and if that is the case then drop it like a hot potato,
>because you are asking for trouble.
>
>Look you do not have to take my word for it,
>just look how GameSpy handles security issues when
>it is notified about it, follow the links and
>take some time to read them, and if you are
>concerned about your computer security stay away
>from the games that are using GameSpy.
>
>http://aluigi.altervista.org/misc/75395-1.pdf
>http://aluigi.altervista.org/papers/castleoflies.txt
>
>With respect to your individual privacy, again,
>you should ask GameSpy to see if their product is
>in compliance with European Union Privacy legislation,
>no prizes given for your guess.
>Simple question for the managers from GameSpy:
>
>Does your product comply with the existing European Union
>privacy legislation and for that matter where I live, Australia?
>
>Why not?

Because Australia is only one country?   Granted, it's better than
Europe.   But EA isn't going to modify every game because anyone in
Europe says so.   They know ( as do we all ) that a lot of their
'legislation' is geared more toward penalizing competition from
foriegn companies than protecting anyone.

When you buy the game and buy into their license agreement, you're
accepting the product as is.   If any company tried to work around the
legislations of 200 countries nothing would ever get produced.

H

Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways!

"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:44:52 +1100, "satan" <satan@hellwantsyou.org>
> enlightened me with:
>
> >First and foremost as a general rule before buying
> >a game you should look on the package to see if it
> >uses GameSpy and if that is the case then drop it like a hot potato,
> >because you are asking for trouble.
> >
> >Look you do not have to take my word for it,
> >just look how GameSpy handles security issues when
> >it is notified about it, follow the links and
> >take some time to read them, and if you are
> >concerned about your computer security stay away
> >from the games that are using GameSpy.
> >
> >http://aluigi.altervista.org/misc/75395-1.pdf
> >http://aluigi.altervista.org/papers/castleoflies.txt
> >
> >With respect to your individual privacy, again,
> >you should ask GameSpy to see if their product is
> >in compliance with European Union Privacy legislation,
> >no prizes given for your guess.
> >Simple question for the managers from GameSpy:
> >
> >Does your product comply with the existing European Union
> >privacy legislation and for that matter where I live, Australia?
> >
> >Why not?
>
> Because Australia is only one country?   Granted, it's better than
> Europe.   But EA isn't going to modify every game because anyone in
> Europe says so.   They know ( as do we all ) that a lot of their
> 'legislation' is geared more toward penalizing competition from
> foriegn companies than protecting anyone.

As it is the case with cars that must comply with safety legislation of that
particular country where the car is sold, the same it applies to other
products. These are the requirements of doing business at
interantional (global) level, what are you saying?

>
> When you buy the game and buy into their license agreement, you're
> accepting the product as is.   If any company tried to work around the
> legislations of 200 countries nothing would ever get produced.

The license agreement has nothing to do with legal compliance, that is
rubbish.

>
> H
>
> Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways!

"Alan Bernardo" <master@oforion.net> wrote
> There are quite a
> number of excellent EA games,

I agree, although I wish I can win in Madden 2001 or Fifa 2002. I also wish
I can play the newer EA games (such as Madden 2003, MVP 2003) but I can't
due to my old system. I know. THe only way to play them is to upgrade. :)

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:00:44 GMT, "Tim Phelps" <ar249@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>I agree, although I wish I can win in Madden 2001 or Fifa 2002. I also wish
>I can play the newer EA games (such as Madden 2003, MVP 2003) but I can't
>due to my old system. I know. THe only way to play them is to upgrade. :)
>

Or just buy an X-Box or PS2.

> >I agree, although I wish I can win in Madden 2001 or Fifa 2002. I also
wish
> >I can play the newer EA games (such as Madden 2003, MVP 2003) but I can't
> >due to my old system. I know. THe only way to play them is to upgrade. :)
> >
>
> Or just buy an X-Box or PS2.

Unless you're an adult.

Hank <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message 

> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:44:52 +1100, "satan" <satan@hellwantsyou.org>
> enlightened me with:
 
> >Simple question for the managers from GameSpy:
> >
> >Does your product comply with the existing European Union
> >privacy legislation and for that matter where I live, Australia?
> >
> >Why not?
 
> Because Australia is only one country?   Granted, it's better than
> Europe.   But EA isn't going to modify every game because anyone in
> Europe says so.   They know ( as do we all ) that a lot of their
> 'legislation' is geared more toward penalizing competition from
> foriegn companies than protecting anyone.

This from someone who lives in the land of the BuyAmerica Bill!

Tell me another one, please,

CC

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:33:49 -0000, "David Sadtwat"
<david@unknown.co.m> wrote:


>Unless you're an adult.
>

BS. He said, "games (such as Madden 2003, MVP 2003)". Consoles are
stellar for sports games. For less than $200.00 he can get an X-Box or
PS2 which will alllow him to play all that latest sports games for
quite some time to come. It's a lot cheaper way to achieve the
objective than paying through the nose to upgrade your PC. BTW, I
don't own a console but I have a PC equiped with 3.0ghz cpu, Radeon
98000pro and 1gb of DDR.

"Rudolph McCrack" <rud_Mc@here.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 08:33:49 -0000, "David Sadtwat"
> <david@unknown.co.m> wrote:
>
>
> >Unless you're an adult.
> >
>
> BS. He said, "games (such as Madden 2003, MVP 2003)". Consoles are
> stellar for sports games. For less than $200.00 he can get an X-Box or
> PS2 which will alllow him to play all that latest sports games for
> quite some time to come.

Ha. Buy a console, they make games for it for a few years, then a new system
comes out and you have to buy a new console because they stop making games
for the old console. Meanwhile the console will not do anything except play
games so you still have to buy a computer.
Sorry, I prefer to buy one machine that does it all rather than one machine
that does it all plus a second machine that will do a little.

It's a lot cheaper way to achieve the
> objective than paying through the nose to upgrade your PC. BTW, I
> don't own a console but I have a PC equiped with 3.0ghz cpu, Radeon
> 98000pro and 1gb of DDR.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:20:58 -0500, "The Ancient One"
<onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:

>Meanwhile the console will not do anything except play
>games

Not true
They also double as a DVD player

bp wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:20:58 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile the console will not do anything except play
>> games
>
> Not true
> They also double as a DVD player

The Xbox can also play music that you've copied to your hard drive
(complete with a fairly lame visual show), can be used as a bullet
proof vest (a recent story in the news mentioned how one stopped a 9mm
pistol bullet at point blank range), and is dangerous to small
children (according to the manual),

"bp" <6ball@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:20:58 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>
> >Meanwhile the console will not do anything except play
> >games
>
> Not true
> They also double as a DVD player

Cool.