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Article #26882

Re: Boycott Red Alert 3

#26882
From: Ace
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:50
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Gosh it must be true cuz I read it on the internet :-)

None of the command & conquer games have ever been able to touch starcraft
for load times.  I find building placement a bit annoying in generals - up
till now C&C games have made it easy to park your buildings in nice tight
blocks without any time wasting.  I'd also like to be able to get a top down
view of the battlefield sometimes.  There's a far few other things that I
think make the game less than it could be, some would be agreed with here,
and some would probably cause you to laugh me out of the group.

Having said that, the *most* annoying thing to me, is that I can't cut all
the bullshit intro sequences to missions and the odd bit within a mission.
That could be because I run generals without any major problems on my P3/550
with 128MB.  How many games do you know that run on a PC so far below the
minimum spec Mr Satan sir?  The only other game I know of is TIE fighter,
which needed a 486 DX2/66, and yet was quite happy on my 486 SX/33

EA have a lot of work to do on their next C&C game in my opinion, but
generals is certainly worth going into a shop and parting with hard earned
cash for.

Ace

PS Sorry if my top posting offends, but I've never understood the sense in
scrolling through all the stuff that's previously been posted just to get to
a one line answer at the bottom.  Maybe I'm a rebel, or maybe I have a dial
up connection :-)

"satan" <vally1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:139ab587.0312291912.608b9ae0@posting.google.com...
> "Dr.Seuss" <dr.seuss@thecatinthehat99.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<bspvlv$g2l$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> > I've been playing C&C since the very first game years back (what is it,
ten
> > years now?) and have bought every game almost on the first day of
release
> > since then, every single game and expansion disk. I have enjoyed all of
> > them, turning to them for an hour or two's gaming whenever at a  loose
end
> > and always enjoying the challenge of the game and the differing gameplay
> > each time.
> >
> >  Generals is in my opinion the pinnacle of the game, C&C has evolved
into
> > the current offering and is everything I wanted it to be. Yes
occasionally I
> > do get a slow down online but it always clears after a few seconds and
many
> > times I've reconnected and found the lag glitch gone completely. I'm no
> > techy, I don't know what causes it but I really don't care, I paid my
money
> > I play the game and I really rate Generals and Zero Hour as brilliant
> > entertainment for the money spent. I don't have anything else that has
> > provided such a good return on investmemt, DVD's / Videos etc, watch
them
> > once or twice and they're as good as dead. This game has probably cost a
> > minute fraction of a penny per hour that I've played and is excellent
value.
> >
>
>  The government department which you are refering to is a consumer
> watchdog.
> As I have said, there will be idiots which will buy the game no matter
> what, the fact of the matter is that while the game "line" might have
> some originality, the performance of the product is what the posting
> is about, like any other product it can have a good and nice package
> but if the performace is shit,  then that product is junk, simple,
> which is what Generals and Zero Hour games are shit products due to
> the fact that they do not perform to the consumer's satisfaction and
> cause problems, which none of you imbeciles, have cared to address,
> thus, enforcing the accuracy of the original posting.
>
> What I realy want is to get value for my money, and up to this point I
> am still waiting, because, come New Year, there will be making a
> posting a day regarding the shitty performance of the Generals and
> Zero Hour, until I get my money back or they fix the games as such
> that the online performance improves, better user interface and the
> rest, because, bro, I PROMISE YOU THIS, if they do not fix it, as such
> that I am satisfied with the product or give me the money back, 2004
> will be the year in which Electronic Arts will go under, Generals and
> Zero Hour are not the only games that are causing problems, do not
> forget about the rest of the crap Electronic Arts puts on the market.
>
> Let Electronic Arts prove me wrong with the statements that I have
> made and show to contrary, here is a challange for Electronic Arts,
> because every statement that I have made is a FACT that none of you
> have been able to deny it.
>
>
> >  I know you are only trolling, who knows why, who cares really. If you
don't
> > like EA / Generals / Zero Hour / Gamespy then simple, don't support,
don't
> > buy, don't use. I don't think anyone on these newsgroups is interested
in
> > some rumour you've picked up about some government department who has
> > nothing better to do than investigate a computer game. Also, keep the
> > accusations of Liar to yourself, we don't all have some old computer
that
> > struggles with the game, mine eats the game with all options and
settings
> > running at full, no slow down, no memory block, no problems.
> >
> >  I will continue to buy from EA, I will continue to buy C&C, Red Alert
> > whatever and I will continue to enjoy the finest games I've played over
the
> > last 15 years on a PC.
> >
> >  Have a g'day
> >
> >  Doc
> >
> > PS       Sorry about the top post
> > PPS     No I don't work for EA or Gamespy either
> >
> >
> >
> > "satan" <vally1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:139ab587.0312281830.124f94e7@posting.google.com...
> > > First of all you three imbecils will have to disclose your association
> > > with Electronic Arts and GameSpy network if you want your comments to
> > > have any credibility at all.
> > >
> > > Now, let Electronic Arts put another faulty product on the market,
> > > because in Australia we have something called ACCC (Australian
> > > Competition and Consumer Commision), because we can deal with
> > > Electronic Arts in this way, it goes under faulty and unsatisfactory
> > > products.
> > >
> > > My understanding is that Electronic Arts is already in the ACCC's
> > > sights, this is what I was told.
> > >
> > > What are you three saying, that you did not have problems with
> > > Generals and Zero Hour? Then this is an outright LIE, just look at the
> > > number of patches released by Electronic Arts.
> > > What are you saying that the game never slowed to less than a frame
> > > per second, because if you do, then this is another LIE.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that after you quit the game does not leave "garbage"
> > > in the memory, because if you do, then this is another LIE.
> > >
> > > Are you saying that the user interface is not crap, because if you do,
> > > then is another LIE.
> > >
> > > Are you by any chanced suggesting that there are no problems with the
> > > online game performance when Electronic Arts has acknowledged the fact
> > > that due to poor development practices they did not take into account
> > > the internet infrastructure, then again you three are telling LIES.
> > >
> > > Electronic Arts has added the "quickstart" option at the executable
> > > due to the fact that individuals complained about it.
> > >
> > > There will be idiots that will buy the crap no matter what, but by far
> > > the majority of individuals will display more common sense and
> > > consider the recent performance of the products put on the market by
> > > Electronic Arts and make an informed decision.
> > >
> > > As I have said, try before you buy, if does not have the online
> > > capability in the trial version, dropped like a hot potato, because
> > > the online version of the game is crap.
> > > As I have said, if anywhere on the package is mentioned the word
> > > GameSpy, again dropped like a hot potato, because the online
> > > capabilities of the game are crap.
> > >
> > > If you have to go throught more than two screens to play any feature
> > > of the game again, dropped like a hot potato, because they are using
> > > flashy splash screens to cover up for the poor performance of the
> > > product.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Drinkenstein" <vodka@beer.net> wrote in message
> >  news:<vutck3ptnmak93@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > > >if red alert 3 comes out I will most definately buy it because all
c&c
> > > > games are great.<
> > > >
> > > > I agree
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Anonymous Alcoholic! Drink 24:7
> > > >   Copyright ę 2003 Drinkenstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Margolis" <someone@somewhere.org> wrote in message
> > > > news:vutbj253rjdnd2@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > "satan" <vally1234@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:139ab587.0312271758.88b9bfa@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > Soon Electronic Arts will try to put on the maket a new version
of
> > > > > > Command And Conquer: Red Alert 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a owner of the bullshit games, Generals and Zero Hour it is
> > > > > > advisable
> > > > > > that before you buy any more shitty games put on the market by
> > > > > > Electronic Arts, try to get a playable demo with online
capability,
> > > > > > and if you are satisfied with the overall performance of the
product
> > > > > > then and only then you should consider buying the game.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you should look for, memory leaks, game performance when
there
> >  is
> > > > > > a multitude of units on the map, user interface, balance between
> > > > > > units, you name it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is mentioned anywhere on the package the word GameSpy,
my
> > > > > > advice is to stay away from it, because the online version of
the
> >  game
> > > > > > will be very, very slow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > if red alert 3 comes out I will most definately buy it because all
c&c
> >  games
> > > > > are great.  And if it uses gamespy, all the better.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Margolis
> > > > >
> > > > >
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