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Started by Anne Lynn Wheeler
Mon, 14 May 2018 16:46
JSF/F-35
Author: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 16:46
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 16:46
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I've recently been involved in quite a few discussions about implementation of F-35 ... recent part more JSF http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html The F-22A system set a record for software complexity in a fighter, with around 2.5 million lines of software source code cited. The system departed from the historical use of low speed Mil-Std-1553B busses, using the high speed Fibre Channel-Avionics Environment (FC-AE) serial bus for high speed internal interconnects. ... In comparing overall evolutionary growth potential, the F-22A wins decisively over the JSF. A plethora of historical case studies of multirole aircraft indicate that the two decisive drivers of evolution into alternative roles are size and raw aerodynamic performance. The F-22A with a larger airframe, wing, internal volume, radar bay, total engine/electrical power and better stealth design has an unassailable lead. This is true for a comparison of the basic F-22A vs the basic JSF. A point of major concern expressed by most analysts is the paucity of volumetric, power and cooling capacity for growth in the JSF over its intended life cycle. ... The recently redesigned CIP 2000 configuration uses up to 66 COTS based Motorola/IBM PowerPC RISC (ie Apple Mac compatible) and Intel i960MX processor chips and is aimed at cost reduction and supportability, with a follow on upgrade planned to further increase computing power. Since the 'G4' variant, PowerPC chips typically include an embedded 'Altivec' short vector processor which is exceptionally well suited to signal processing tasks, as found in radar, comms and EW processing. ... snip ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II#Overview High speed data networking including IEEE 1394b[33] and Fibre Channel.[34] (Fibre Channel is also used on Boeing's Super Hornet.[35]) ... snip ... trivia: other claims are 1.7 lines of code for F22 (and possibly 25M for F35) total trivia and off-topic: 1988 I was asked to help LLNL standardize some serial stuff they were playing with that quickly becomes fibre channel standard ... I had done various things on&off with LLNL going back to 1979. At the time, I was also in the POWER group ... six chip and I was working on using fibre channel to tie together large number of systems ... for both commercial and scientific (planning on 16 system mid-1992 and 128 system ye-1992 and increasing). The executive we reported to then goes over to run SOMERSET, the AIM (Apple, IBM, Motorola) effort to do single chip sub-set of POWER/PC. As chip technology advances, they manage to put more and more in single chip and eventually POWER & POWER/PC merge. Some of the problem for Apple is that IBM wasn't keeping up with (electrical) power use optimization for power/pc and has switched to Intel processors. The problem for me was I was also doing commercial RDBMS scaleup for large number of processors tied together as well as technical scaleup with the national labs. I had meeting Jan1992 with CEO of Oracle for "cluster scaleup" and within a few weeks of that meeting, IBM transfers "cluster scaleup", tells us we can't work on anything with more than four processors ... and "cluster scaleup" is announced as IBM supercomputer (for technical and scientific *ONLY*). Within a few months we leave IBM (problem was that IBM commercial mainframe groups complained that if I was allowed to go ahead, it would be far superior to what they were doing). posts mentioning HA/CMP http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp some "cluster scaleup" (and other HA/CMP) email from the period http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa reference to AIM/Somerset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM_alliance reference JAN1992 meeting with Ellison http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 Apple moves to Intel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_transition_to_Intel_processors Fibre Channel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel past posts mentioning IBM mainframe channel protocol layered on fibre channel, drastically reducing native throughput http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#ficon original POWER chipset http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/riospw.jpg -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
Re: JSF/F-35
Author: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 18:02
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 18:02
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On 14/05/2018 17:46, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > ... Mil-Std-1553B ... As compared to the standard required of the prototype workshop by the designers? ..... MIL-TFD-4.1 "Make It Like The F*cking Drawing For Once" ! :-)
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