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Olympics opening ceremony
#620567
Author: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:19
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Is it one enormous LCD screen upon which they are
acting, for there does not seem to be any illumination
patterns on the actors which one wold expect if being
projected from above?

Bearing in mind that Korea is one of the foremost
producers of LCD screens?
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620568
Author: Brian Reay
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:53
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On 09/02/2018 11:19, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote:
> Is it one enormous LCD screen upon which they are
> acting, for there does not seem to be any illumination
> patterns on the actors which one wold expect if being
> projected from above?
> 
> Bearing in mind that Korea is one of the foremost
> producers of LCD screens?

I'm not watching it but, while a front projection would probably show 
indications on people between the screen and projector you allude to, 
there is a technique of back projection which wouldn't.

Of course the screen could be an array of small screens with no 'edge' 
so you can't see the joins. The image is broken into 'tiles'- each 
displayed on a small screen.

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Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620569
Author: ma...
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:59
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On 2018-02-09, Gareth's Downstairs Computer <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is it one enormous LCD screen upon which they are
> acting, for there does not seem to be any illumination
> patterns on the actors which one wold expect if being
> projected from above?
>
> Bearing in mind that Korea is one of the foremost
> producers of LCD screens?

Oh, its faked like the Moon landings :)

I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620570
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 19:35
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:

> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea

They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.

John Savard
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620621
Author: jmfbahciv
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 14:34
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Quadibloc wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>
>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and
S.Korea
>
> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of
> China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.
>
> John Savard

I thought it was just two kinds of things:  heavy duty washing machines
and solar panels.

/BAH
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620571
Author: Dave Garland
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:19
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On 2/9/2018 1:35 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
> 
>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea
> 
> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.

Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to. But we can 
all feel much safer knowing that such "heroic allies" are on "our" side.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620572
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:00
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:19:53 -0600, Dave Garland
<dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:

>On 2/9/2018 1:35 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea
>> 
>> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.
>
>Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to. But we can 
>all feel much safer knowing that such "heroic allies" are on "our" side.

During the Korean War there was a certain amount of sentiment to the
effect that the whole mess should be given back to Japan.  One wonders
what Asia would look like today if that had happened.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620573
Author: ma...
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 20:02
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On 2018-02-10, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:19:53 -0600, Dave Garland
><dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2/9/2018 1:35 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea
>>> 
>>> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.
>>
>>Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to. But we can 
>>all feel much safer knowing that such "heroic allies" are on "our" side.
>
> During the Korean War there was a certain amount of sentiment to the
> effect that the whole mess should be given back to Japan.  One wonders
> what Asia would look like today if that had happened.

The south korean government after WWII was essencially the former
Japanese puppet government. So, yes, Asia would be the same as it is
now.


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620576
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:27
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On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 10:19:55 AM UTC-7, Dave Garland wrote:

> Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to.

Canada is a member of NATO! We're all in this together, fighting against the 
evil Commies!

Admittedly, our current Prime Minister is the son of Pierre Trudeau, who verily 
fawned in hero worship over the bloody tyrant Mao Tse-Tung (aka Mao Zedong), but 
regardless of transitory politics, _some_ Canadians are more sensible!

Or our _previous_ Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, would never have held office.

John Savard
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620574
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:43
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On 10 Feb 2018 20:02:28 GMT, ma...@mail.com wrote:

>On 2018-02-10, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:19:53 -0600, Dave Garland
>><dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2/9/2018 1:35 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea
>>>> 
>>>> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.
>>>
>>>Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to. But we can 
>>>all feel much safer knowing that such "heroic allies" are on "our" side.
>>
>> During the Korean War there was a certain amount of sentiment to the
>> effect that the whole mess should be given back to Japan.  One wonders
>> what Asia would look like today if that had happened.
>
>The south korean government after WWII was essencially the former
>Japanese puppet government. So, yes, Asia would be the same as it is
>now.

You mean the Japanese _wouldn't_ have eaten North Korea for breakfast
and then spent the rest of the century chewing up China?
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620577
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:44
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 14:27:57 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 10:19:55 AM UTC-7, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to.
>
>Canada is a member of NATO! We're all in this together, fighting against the 
>evil Commies!

What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?

>Admittedly, our current Prime Minister is the son of Pierre Trudeau, who verily 
>fawned in hero worship over the bloody tyrant Mao Tse-Tung (aka Mao Zedong), but 
>regardless of transitory politics, _some_ Canadians are more sensible!
>
>Or our _previous_ Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, would never have held office.
>
>John Savard
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620578
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 23:29
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On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:

> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?

So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks like 
history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off the 
bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is 
sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business 
leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or anything 
troublesome like that.

But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the 
Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the 
credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors. And 
this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to 
countenance.

John Savard
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620579
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 01:28
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 15:29:20 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>
>So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks like 
>history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off the 
>bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is 
>sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business 
>leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or anything 
>troublesome like that.
>
>But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the 
>Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the 
>credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors. And 
>this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to 
>countenance.

Yeah, yeah, we are supposed to die for your causes.

Grow a pair and come down here and enlist.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620575
Author: ma...
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 08:48
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On 2018-02-10, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2018 20:02:28 GMT, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>
>>On 2018-02-10, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:19:53 -0600, Dave Garland
>>><dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2/9/2018 1:35 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:59:48 AM UTC-7, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think that the US has imposed heavy taxes on imports from China and S.Korea
>>>>> 
>>>>> They should impose heavy taxes on imports from the People's Republic of China, but not on our heroic allies of South Korea or Taiwan.
>>>>
>>>>Since you're from Canada, I'm not sure who "our" refers to. But we can 
>>>>all feel much safer knowing that such "heroic allies" are on "our" side.
>>>
>>> During the Korean War there was a certain amount of sentiment to the
>>> effect that the whole mess should be given back to Japan.  One wonders
>>> what Asia would look like today if that had happened.
>>
>>The south korean government after WWII was essencially the former
>>Japanese puppet government. So, yes, Asia would be the same as it is
>>now.
>
> You mean the Japanese _wouldn't_ have eaten North Korea for breakfast
> and then spent the rest of the century chewing up China?

Part of the Red Army drove through the Japanese twice, before WWII,
and in 1945. The Japanese army remained in Vietnam, under US orders,
for a while after the Surrender, to stop the commies from taking
power before the French returned. Fanatical, suicidal bravery is not
always a good tactic. 


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620607
Author: jmfbahciv
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:48
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Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>
> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
like
> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
the
> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
anything
> troublesome like that.
>
> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the
> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the
> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
And
> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
> countenance.

Russia wants a seaport.

/BAH
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620609
Author: Scott Lurndal
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:06
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jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>>
>> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
>like
>> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
>the
>> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
>> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
>> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
>anything
>> troublesome like that.
>>
>> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the
>> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the
>> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
>And
>> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
>> countenance.
>
>Russia wants a seaport.

Like they don't already have a bunch:

Vladivostok.
Murmansk
St. Petersburg
NOvorossiysk
Sochi

Then there's Syria.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620610
Author: Charles Richmond
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:28
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On 2/11/2018 11:06 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>>>
>>> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
>> like
>>> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
>> the
>>> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
>>> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
>>> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
>> anything
>>> troublesome like that.
>>>
>>> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the
>>> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the
>>> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
>> And
>>> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
>>> countenance.
>>
>> Russia wants a seaport.
> 
> Like they don't already have a bunch:
> 
> Vladivostok.
> Murmansk
> St. Petersburg
> NOvorossiysk
> Sochi
> 
> Then there's Syria.
> 

Russia also swiped Konigsberg... in the Northwest corner of Poland...  a 
Baltic Sea port.  The Russians call it Kaliningrad and the Kaliningrad 
Oblast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

-- 
numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620611
Author: JimP
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:30
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:28:18 -0600, Charles Richmond
<nume...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

>On 2/11/2018 11:06 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>>>>
>>>> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
>>> like
>>>> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
>>> the
>>>> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
>>>> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
>>>> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
>>> anything
>>>> troublesome like that.
>>>>
>>>> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the
>>>> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the
>>>> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
>>> And
>>>> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
>>>> countenance.
>>>
>>> Russia wants a seaport.
>> 
>> Like they don't already have a bunch:
>> 
>> Vladivostok.
>> Murmansk
>> St. Petersburg
>> NOvorossiysk
>> Sochi
>> 
>> Then there's Syria.
>> 
>
>Russia also swiped Konigsberg... in the Northwest corner of Poland...  a 
>Baltic Sea port.  The Russians call it Kaliningrad and the Kaliningrad 
>Oblast.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

But many of those are only warm weather sea ports. And Vladivostok is
on the other side of Russia from Moscow.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620612
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:18
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:28:18 -0600, Charles Richmond
<nume...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

>On 2/11/2018 11:06 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>>>>
>>>> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
>>> like
>>>> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
>>> the
>>>> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
>>>> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
>>>> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
>>> anything
>>>> troublesome like that.
>>>>
>>>> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on the
>>>> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine the
>>>> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
>>> And
>>>> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
>>>> countenance.
>>>
>>> Russia wants a seaport.
>> 
>> Like they don't already have a bunch:
>> 
>> Vladivostok.
>> Murmansk
>> St. Petersburg
>> NOvorossiysk
>> Sochi
>> 
>> Then there's Syria.
>> 
>
>Russia also swiped Konigsberg... in the Northwest corner of Poland...  a 
>Baltic Sea port.  The Russians call it Kaliningrad and the Kaliningrad 
>Oblast.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

However none of these address the real issue, that they don't have an
ice-free Atlantic port that can't be easily closed by a potential
enemy.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620613
Author: ma...
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:33
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On 2018-02-11, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:28:18 -0600, Charles Richmond
><nume...@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2/11/2018 11:06 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>
>>> NOvorossiysk
>>> Sochi
>>> 
>>> Then there's Syria.
>>> 
>>
>>Russia also swiped Konigsberg... in the Northwest corner of Poland...  a 
>>Baltic Sea port.  The Russians call it Kaliningrad and the Kaliningrad 
>>Oblast.
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
>
> However none of these address the real issue, that they don't have an
> ice-free Atlantic port that can't be easily closed by a potential
> enemy.

A relation of mine died aa few years ago from conditions caused by
being on a ship going to Murmansk thatwas sunk in 1943.


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620620
Author: jmfbahciv
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 14:51
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Scott Lurndal wrote:
> jmfbahciv <See....@aol.com> writes:
>>Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 3:44:33 PM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>> What commies have a presence in the North Atlantic these days?
>>>
>>> So now Russia is fascist instead. Of course, with Donald Trump, it looks
>>like
>>> history is repeating itself: while Communism led to a Red Scare right off
>>the
>>> bat, Mussolini and Hitler were not considered a threat by many in what is
>>> sometimes termed "The Establishment", community, religious, and business
>>> leaders; after all, they weren't stirring up trade union militancy or
>>anything
>>> troublesome like that.
>>>
>>> But by attacking Georgia and the Ukraine, as well as putting pressure on
the
>>> Baltic nations, make no mistake about it, Russia is seeking to undermine
the
>>> credibility of NATO so as to gain the power to intimidate their neighbors.
>>And
>>> this, quite properly, is a thing the United States should not begin to
>>> countenance.
>>
>>Russia wants a seaport.
>
> Like they don't already have a bunch:
>
> Vladivostok.
> Murmansk
> St. Petersburg
> NOvorossiysk
> Sochi

Not during the winter.
>
> Then there's Syria.

To be determined.

/BAH
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620580
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:18
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No one is to die. Find better ways to wage war. Ambulatory drones, for example.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620581
Author: Dave Garland
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 05:26
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On 2/12/2018 5:18 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
> No one is to die. Find better ways to wage war. Ambulatory drones, for example.
> 
Our drones vs. their drones, may the best drone win? It might be 
better, but will the meatbags honor the outcome?
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620582
Author: J. Clarke
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 12:03
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:26:01 -0600, Dave Garland
<dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:

>On 2/12/2018 5:18 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> No one is to die. Find better ways to wage war. Ambulatory drones, for example.
>> 
>Our drones vs. their drones, may the best drone win? It might be 
>better, but will the meatbags honor the outcome?

War is about achieving your objectives and preventing the enemy from
achieving his.  It's not a game in which whoever kills the most wins.

Drones shooting up drones is not going to achieve objectives.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620585
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:06
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Ambulatory drones. Robot bodies, walking on two legs, controlled from 
a facility not unlike a call center... and doing most of the 
things human soldiers would do. Holding and controlling territory included.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620586
Author: Quadibloc
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 16:34
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On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 9:06:19 AM UTC-7, Quadibloc wrote:
> Ambulatory drones. Robot bodies, walking on two legs, controlled from 
> a facility not unlike a call center... and doing most of the 
> things human soldiers would do. Holding and controlling territory included.

...thus, although they wouldn't have vat-Maoris inside, they might well look 
like the Sturmtruppen from the Sternkriegen movies.

John Savard
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620584
Author: Charlie Gibbs
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:24
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On 2018-02-13, J  Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:26:01 -0600, Dave Garland
> <dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2/12/2018 5:18 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>
>>> No one is to die. Find better ways to wage war. Ambulatory drones,
>>> for example.
>> 
>> Our drones vs. their drones, may the best drone win? It might be 
>> better, but will the meatbags honor the outcome?
>
> War is about achieving your objectives and preventing the enemy from
> achieving his.  It's not a game in which whoever kills the most wins.

A lot of people are going to be very disappointed to hear this.

> Drones shooting up drones is not going to achieve objectives.

Unless you're a drone manufacturer.  :-)

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Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620583
Author: Peter Flass
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:18
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:26:01 -0600, Dave Garland
> <dave.g...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2/12/2018 5:18 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> No one is to die. Find better ways to wage war. Ambulatory drones, for example.
>>> 
>> Our drones vs. their drones, may the best drone win? It might be 
>> better, but will the meatbags honor the outcome?
> 
> War is about achieving your objectives and preventing the enemy from
> achieving his.  It's not a game in which whoever kills the most wins.
> 
> Drones shooting up drones is not going to achieve objectives.
> 

Yes, but it will keep their drones from shooting your people.

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Pete
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620587
Author: Peter Flass
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:18
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Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> Ambulatory drones. Robot bodies, walking on two legs, controlled from 
> a facility not unlike a call center... and doing most of the 
> things human soldiers would do. Holding and controlling territory included.
> 

I Saw a couple of really creepy robots on tv today - four-legged, about the
size of large dogs. One had a "hand" where the dog's head would be and the
other was headless. Still a bit awkward, but the one with the hand opened a
door so they both could go thru.

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Pete
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620588
Author: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:43
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On 13/02/2018 22:18, Peter Flass wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> Ambulatory drones. Robot bodies, walking on two legs, controlled from
>> a facility not unlike a call center... and doing most of the
>> things human soldiers would do. Holding and controlling territory included.
>>
> 
> I Saw a couple of really creepy robots on tv today - four-legged, about the
> size of large dogs. One had a "hand" where the dog's head would be and the
> other was headless. Still a bit awkward, but the one with the hand opened a
> door so they both could go thru.
> 

Google for Boston Dynamics.

The sort of toys we'd rather be programming than old dull financial
systems or real-time comms.
Re: Olympics opening ceremony
#620589
Author: Bob Eager
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 23:15
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 15:18:11 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> Ambulatory drones. Robot bodies, walking on two legs, controlled from a
>> facility not unlike a call center... and doing most of the things human
>> soldiers would do. Holding and controlling territory included.
>> 
>> 
> I Saw a couple of really creepy robots on tv today - four-legged, about
> the size of large dogs. One had a "hand" where the dog's head would be
> and the other was headless. Still a bit awkward, but the one with the
> hand opened a door so they both could go thru.

I thought that was really creepy too. Would have been better if they had 
something that resembled a head. And the gait was more spider-like (but 
with four legs).

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