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18 total messages Started by j... John Kallen Tue, 24 Apr 1990 06:37
Frisbee floppies
#2562
Author: j... John Kallen
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 1990 06:37
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There is a frisbee maniac in my dorm who saw one of my 5"25's and
started tossing it for fun. It turns out that minifloppies fly well in
a draftfree room like a dorm hall corridor. We only saw one problem
with tossing it around: the square corners are *sharp*. We finally
got the minifloppy lodged into a wooden door, and decided that we
didn't want to maim anybody.

Makes me wonder what bored operators did way back when 8" floppies
were the state of the art. "Ultimate Flopee, anyone?"
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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: sdu... Stephen David Ungar
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 1990 21:12
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In article <1990Apr24....@Neon.Stanford.EDU> j...@Neon.Stanford.EDU 
(John Kallen) writes:
>There is a frisbee maniac in my dorm who saw one of my 5"25's and
>started tossing it for fun. It turns out that minifloppies fly well in
>a draftfree room like a dorm hall corridor. We only saw one problem
>with tossing it around: the square corners are *sharp*. We finally
>got the minifloppy lodged into a wooden door, and decided that we
>didn't want to maim anybody.
>

A bunch of friends and I discovered this feature last year while living in the
dorms.  We had a bunch of old floppies around and a long corridor.  One thing
let to another and.....

We all ended up with a few good gouges.  We eventually ended up using cushions
from the sofas as protection, but that could offer only so much help.



-- 

-Steve
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: cs25... aNk1ez
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 1990 22:40
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Yes!!!! Hahahah! A *popular* sport among my friends and I...

8" floppies don't fly well at ALL. 5"'s fly rather well, but they
mangle themselves (I had one have its plastic jacket SHATTER when 
it slammed into the corner of a monitor... and unless you're
angry, i don't reccomend 3"s or rl02 packs. not good. (
honestly, no one's every REALLY thrown an rl02 pack.. yet..)
but we nuked a flouro. light tube with a 3" disk... 
(if not for the draft, it mighta decapitated my friend..)

Techs
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: cs6... Vermicious Knid
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 1990 08:07
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In article <1990Apr24....@Neon.Stanford.EDU> j...@Neon.Stanford.EDU (John Kallen) writes:
>There is a frisbee maniac in my dorm who saw one of my 5"25's and
>started tossing it for fun. It turns out that minifloppies fly well in
>a draftfree room like a dorm hall corridor.

>Makes me wonder what bored operators did way back when 8" floppies
>were the state of the art. "Ultimate Flopee, anyone?"

I've played frisbee disk for years!  Even in the early years of high school
we'd play during lunch and before class in math.  When a disk started
falling apart we'd staple it back together to get it to last a while
longer, but we still went through quite a few.  They fly well outside,
too, because the breeze often helps them go farther.  I even managed to
land one on top of the ~2-story gym.  

A year or so ago I found some 8" floppies at a sort of computer junk
store, and bought a few to see how well they'd fly.  I don't know how
true this is of 8" floppies in general, but these did not have enough
structural rigidity to make up for their extra size and weight.  I
prefer the 5.25" variety.  Has anybody tried 3.5" floppies or CDs?
I'd be interested in hearing how well they fly.

- eric hedstrom
- cs6...@sdcc7.ucsd.edu
- er...@skink.ino.ucar.edu
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: ai... Paul D. Crowley
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 1990 13:38
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CDs fly very well.   I got a few sample discs because I thought they
looked pretty, and a friend and I started using them for frisbees.  
They're not something you want to stand in the way of.

They smash very spectacularly as well - I have the pieces stuck to my
wall.
-- 
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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: s... Steve Simmons
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 1990 13:59
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cs25...@carina.unm.edu (aNk1ez) writes:

>Yes!!!! Hahahah! A *popular* sport among my friends and I...

>8" floppies don't fly well at ALL. 5"'s fly rather well, but they
>mangle themselves . . .

At a SF convention a few years back we had a Modern Olympics.  One of
the contests was the Floppy Discus.  But to make it interesting we
insisted on olympic rules for throwing the thing, and specificly
banned flipping the wrist.  Winner went about 7 feet, as I recall.
Great fun.
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: TBC... TomShark Collins
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 1990 14:37
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In article <99...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>, cs6...@sdcc7.ucsd.edu (Vermicious Knid) says:
>
>In article <1990Apr24....@Neon.Stanford.EDU> j...@Neon.Stanford.EDU    n
>(Joh
>Kallen) writes:
>>There is a frisbee maniac in my dorm who saw one of my 5"25's and
>>started tossing it for fun. It turns out that minifloppies fly well in
>>a draftfree room like a dorm hall corridor.
>
>A year or so ago I found some 8" floppies at a sort of computer junk
>store, and bought a few to see how well they'd fly.  I don't know how
>true this is of 8" floppies in general, but these did not have enough
>structural rigidity to make up for their extra size and weight.  I
>prefer the 5.25" variety.  Has anybody tried 3.5" floppies or CDs?
>I'd be interested in hearing how well they fly.
>
>- eric hedstrom

We used to play floppy frisbee all the time...  You're right, the
5.25"'s would fly great, and occasionally catch a draft and flip up into
the ceiling.  I have tried 3.5"'s and they fly just as well.  A little
more dangerous though.  We usually just whip them around the room, but
not to each other.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would try whipping an optical
disk around, but a friend of mine tried a normal CD.  Said it worked
pretty well until it hit a wall and shattered.

--
Tom "Shark" Collins       Since ICS is comprised of 2 people, my views
tbc...@psuvm.psu.edu      are the opinion of at least 50% of the company.
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: jac... Michel Jackson
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 1990 14:49
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I blush to admit this, but once upon a time, as an undergrad, a few of
us indulged in throwing the disks from a disasembled RL01/02 pack.
They're heavy.

I don't recommend this unless you have heavy gloves & room to dodge.
The disks tumble & flip unexpectedly & one came sailing down out of
the sky edge first & buried itself about 2 1/2 inches deep in the
dirt. After that we quit. Dangerous.

still have one of those head-crashed packs around somewhere!
	---michel (jac...@shs.ohio-state.edu)
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: mdch... M Darrin Chaney
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 1990 03:00
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I used to work as a DJ at a college radio station as a freshman.  Many
of the radio shows that we got (from Westwood One) came on records.
The packages said that they were to be immediately destroyed after the
show was played, and they were built to survive about one play (they
were very flimsy).  We would take them to the hall and play frisbee.
When they'd hit the wall, they would shatter into a million
pieces (counted them myself).  We also got free singles from PolyGram,
which were mostly soul music, which didn't blend well with the
progressive format.  We would destroy those by playing frisbee, and
sometimes we would make real interesting designs with the help of a
lighter (try it).

	Darrin

mdchaney@iubacs
mdch...@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
mdch...@rose.ucs.indiana.edu
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: r... Robert E. Seastrom
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 1990 03:25
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In article <24...@ariel.unm.edu> cs2591aq@carina.unm.edu.UUCP (aNk1ez) writes:
>Yes!!!! Hahahah! A *popular* sport among my friends and I...
>
>8" floppies don't fly well at ALL. 5"'s fly rather well, but they
>mangle themselves (I had one have its plastic jacket SHATTER when 
>it slammed into the corner of a monitor... and unless you're
>angry, i don't reccomend 3"s or rl02 packs. not good. (
>honestly, no one's every REALLY thrown an rl02 pack.. yet..)
>but we nuked a flouro. light tube with a 3" disk... 
>(if not for the draft, it mighta decapitated my friend..)

I threw an RL02 pack once.  It's kinda ungainly though and hard to get
any velocity on them, but I was angry at the time, and didn't do too
bad (that pack had just crashed).  3" disks are good primarily for
shimming table legs if the floor happens to be uneven.  They will also
do in a pinch for coasters under beer cans.





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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: te... Terry Kennedy
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 1990 18:20
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In article <1990Apr27....@eddie.mit.edu>, r...@eddie.mit.edu (Robert E. Seastrom) writes:
> I threw an RL02 pack once.  It's kinda ungainly though and hard to get
> any velocity on them, but I was angry at the time, and didn't do too
> bad (that pack had just crashed).

  I threw a DataProducts 2230 once. It's _very_ ungainly and _impossible_
to get any velocity on them. It did, however, make a nice dent in the floor
where it landed. (And yes, I was very angry at the time 8-).

  This really happened. Mail b...@spcvxa.spc.edu for an independent observer's
opinion if you don't believe me...

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, US
	te...@spcvxa.spc.edu	(201) 915-9381
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: spi... Ron Spinner
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 1990 00:31
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te...@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy) writes:
> r...@eddie.mit.edu (Robert E. Seastrom) writes:
> > I threw an RL02 pack once.  It's kinda ungainly though and hard to get
> > any velocity on them, but I was angry at the time, and didn't do too
> > bad (that pack had just crashed).
> 
>   I threw a DataProducts 2230 once. It's _very_ ungainly and _impossible_
> to get any velocity on them. It did, however, make a nice dent in the floor
> where it landed. (And yes, I was very angry at the time 8-).

The best "flying disk" story I know of here happened when we got rid
of our last Dec-20 (huge and ungainly, but the most friendly OS I ever
met :-).  Well, we had an RPO6 pack that was no longer useful, so it
was decided that the pack should have a "glorious ending".  Hill
Center is 7 stories tall, so...  :-) Needless to say, the crash was
spectacular, (or so I heard, I arrived 5 minutes too late for the leap
of faith).  Someone wrote "bad sector, does not boot" on the badly
mangled platter with a marker.  It was then left on the desk of the
Operations Supervisor so that he could "look at it in the morning" :-)

I understand that there is a videotape of this event floating around
somewhere's.   I guess that'd be good proof :-)

Ron Spinner (spinner@paul)
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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: SL... Roger Ivie
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 1990 16:23
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In article <24...@ariel.unm.edu>, cs25...@carina.unm.edu (aNk1ez) writes:
> 
> 8" floppies don't fly well at ALL. 

No, no, no! What you do with 8"ers is take them OUT OF THE JACKET,
find a nice smooth flat floor, and give them a good spin. They trap
air underneath them and go scooting about the floor unpredictably.
They're lots of fun.

-- 
===============================================================================
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35 S 300 W
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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: sc... Scott Yelich
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 1990 18:29
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>prefer the 5.25" variety.  Has anybody tried 3.5" floppies or CDs?
>I'd be interested in hearing how well they fly.

Well, I guess this is my one stupid post of a lifetime.... everyone has one!

I threw my Def Leppard ``Hysteria'' CD against a wall to see 1) if it
would fly and 2) if it would shatter.  Well, as I tell this story...
the CD flew great... but it did not shatter-- so I threw it again.
This time it shattered (No loss).  Of the things I have thrown: 3.5"
disks, 5.25" disks, 8" disks, CDs, 45s, 33s, cassette tapes, my
sister..... I think CDs are the best.  The only thing to remember is
that, like a frisbee, they fly better when they are spinning quickly.

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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: ai... Paul D. Crowley
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 1990 18:12
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It's nice to see that people have a healthy attitude of destructiveness
to computer equipment that fails to cooperate.   I have a friend who's a
programmer who keeps a foam rubber mallet beside the computer so that he
can hit it when it goes wrong.

Of course, I'd usually much rather hit the programmers... if the people
who wrote DisplayWrite 4 or ST Basic are reading this, pray you never
meet me.   Or make sure you have health insurance.
-- 
\/ o\ Paul Crowley aipdc@uk.ac.ed.castle                       :-| Have a day
/\__/ "The whole is the sum of its parts, plus one or more bugs" aimsm@castle
Re: Venting Rage (Was: Frisbee floppies)
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Author: pet... Peter Deutsch
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 1990 22:34
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In article <36...@castle.ed.ac.uk>, ai...@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul D. Crowley) writes:
> It's nice to see that people have a healthy attitude of destructiveness
> to computer equipment that fails to cooperate.   I have a friend who's a
> programmer who keeps a foam rubber mallet beside the computer so that he
> can hit it when it goes wrong.
> 
> Of course, I'd usually much rather hit the programmers... if the people
> who wrote DisplayWrite 4 or ST Basic are reading this, pray you never
> meet me.   Or make sure you have health insurance.

Yes! About two years ago we were in the throes of moving
the School of Computer Science from the relatively new,
air conditioned building to the old, ask yet
un-air conditioned building down the quad (It's a long
story...) Summer in Quebec can (believe it or not) get
_very_ hot, so I equipped myself with a small water pistol
for "equalizing" those who gave me a hard time. It was not
long before I began zapping the terminal I was working on,
it was amazing how much pleasure this gave me. I gave it
up when somebody suggested that the screen might implode
on me! I can't guarantee that it would happen, but I'd
seen pictures of screens that had done this, and it was a
sobering thought. Anyways, I convinced myself that it is
not a "good thing" to do to electronics.

Pity.


				- peterd
Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: frit... Scott Fritchie ACC St. O...
Date: Thu, 03 May 1990 20:29
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In article <SCOTT.90A...@aelle.cs.odu.edu> sc...@cs.odu.edu (Scott Yelich) writes:

   >prefer the 5.25" variety.  Has anybody tried 3.5" floppies or CDs?
   >I'd be interested in hearing how well they fly.

   [stuff deleted...]

   I think CDs are the best.  The only thing to remember is
   that, like a frisbee, they fly better when they are spinning quickly.

It depends on what "best" is.  CD's with a lot of spin on them are
fun, but they don't last too long.  My award for Most Entertaining
Flight are 5.25" floppy disks.  In high school I suffered a disk
crash, and in a fit of rage I threw the floppy down a hallway -- it
flew straight for about 30 feet and then made a 90 degree turn
straight up.  I thought it was cool that I forgot about being mad and
threw it several other times that afternoon (when the teachers weren't
looking....).

The problem with the 5.25" floppies is that they aren't designed for
high-speed impact with bigger things, like walls, floors, and ceilings
(I wonder why... :-).  Back then, those disks cost anywhere from three
to four dollars, so to protect my investment (even though they had
already crashed), I encased them with hockey tape.  It made the disks
a bit thicker, less unpredictable (not exactly a feature), and
substantially heavier.  The extra mass was especially noticable when,
with a characteristically wild flight, a disk hit a male friend in
the, er, um, privates....

The disk flights eventually had to stop because the black hockey tape
would leave black marks on the walls on impact.

						-Scott
--
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                 St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN  55057  USA
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Re: Frisbee floppies
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Author: jas... Bryce Jasmer
Date: Fri, 04 May 1990 00:07
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In article TBC...@psuvm.psu.edu (TomShark Collins) writes:
>I don't think anyone in their right mind would try whipping an optical
>disk around, but a friend of mine tried a normal CD.  Said it worked
>pretty well until it hit a wall and shattered.

We had a demo CD-ROM that HP had given us that had no data on it and
the index track was scored out so that you couldn't even play it on
a CD player. I was bored one night and saw this hanging on the wall
and thought how fun it would be to throw a CD. I took it outside and
let it rip. It flew at least 70 yards or more and then hit the brick
building across the street and broke in half.

They don't fly as straight as a frisbee and don't stay level but they
certainly go far. I think an Aerobee will still beat it though :-)

Bryce Jasmer
jas...@cs.orst.edu
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