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In article <4_D#!R*@rpi.edu> ent...@pawl.rpi.edu (Moe Foe) writes:
>I heard that Zilog tried to trademark the letter 'Z'.

I dunno from Zilog, but Intel's catalogs, etc claim a trademark on 
the letter 'i' - as in i860, I guess.

Therefore, I si(tm)gn my full legal name: Henry Wi(tm)lfri(tm)d Troup.

The letter i is a trademark of Intel; Edsel is a trademark of The Ford Motor Co.
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In article <4_D#!R*@rpi.edu>, entropy@pawl (Moe Foe) writes:
| I heard that Zilog tried to trademark the letter 'Z'.
| 
| Can anyone verify this or shoot it down?
| 
| Don't post if all you're going to say is "Yeah, I heard that
| too, but I forgot where."

Well, if DEC can trademark the number 11, and Intel the same for
lowercase "i", why not give Zilog its turn at bat?

["What?  You mean they already batted?  Nevermind..."]

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In article <54...@sugar.hackercorp.com> pe...@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
#Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
#with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
#same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.

Isn't there a Boeing 707?

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Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.

You can trademark anything. I think I'll trademark the period. :->
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What really bothers me about this, is if some publisher decides to copyright
all the words in a dictionary ...
We wouldn't be allowed to write or speak without written permission :-)

Or even better : copyright the whole alphabet, and watch the royalty money
pouring in ...

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I said:

> #Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
> #with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
> #same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.

Dialling Porsche-911:

> Isn't there a Boeing 707?

Not even Saab could confuse an airliner and an automobile.
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In article <260F669...@orion.oac.uci.edu> dkr...@orion.oac.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
#In article <54...@sugar.hackercorp.com> pe...@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
##Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
##with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
##same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.
#
#Isn't there a Boeing 707?

Yeah, but it ain't a car, so there is no potential problem with 'passing off' 
or whatever the technical term is. Anyone want to go over the 'vacuum cleaner 
called a VAX' story again ? :-( Neil.
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A few years ago, my magazine (_The Cornell Lunatic: Campus Humor Magazine_)
  was somewhat strapped for funds.  We were brainstorming for ideas on how
  we should make money, and we came up with
	Trademark the (tm) symbol.

Somehow it never got off the ground, though...

In article <1990Mar27.1...@lth.se> d8...@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) writes:
> What really bothers me about this, is if some publisher decides to copyright
> all the words in a dictionary ...
> We wouldn't be allowed to write or speak without written permission :-)
> 

And then be sued for having made the request...



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In article <4_D#!R*@rpi.edu> ent...@pawl.rpi.edu (Moe Foe) writes:
>
>I heard that Zilog tried to trademark the letter 'Z'.
Actually, Crash, I'm probably the one who told you that.
>
>Can anyone verify this or shoot it down?
>
I can't absolutely confirm it is true. But I did read it in an old
issue of "80 Micro" around 7 years ago. I couldn't possibly remember
the issue number, but it was one of those articles complaining about
all the litigation in the computer industry. The author brought up
an attempt by Zilog to trademark the letter 'Z' which was thrown
out of court by the judge. 

This hardly comes from an inside source, but even if it isn't true,
it makes a cool story.

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In article <7970...@m.cs.uiuc.edu> nel...@m.cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>A few years ago, my magazine (_The Cornell Lunatic: Campus Humor Magazine_)
>  was somewhat strapped for funds.  We were brainstorming for ideas on how
>  we should make money, and we came up with
>	Trademark the (tm) symbol.


                                                tm
"tm" is a trademark of Transcendental Meditation

     ;-)

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In article <}VJ#D3=@rpi.edu> mcca...@turing.cs.rpi.edu (Eric McCaughrin) writes:
>In article <4_D#!R*@rpi.edu> ent...@pawl.rpi.edu (Moe Foe) writes:
>>
>>I heard that Zilog tried to trademark the letter 'Z'.

Wasn't there a story going 'round about a year ago about somebody trying to
patent (trademark?) Xor'ed Bitblting?

According to the 1989 Microsoft trademark list, the numbers 376, 386, 387, and
486 are trademarks of Intel Corporation.  Imagine the impact on modern mathema-
tics!

I was thinking of trademarking the lowercase letter l.  Then I could sue the
number 1 for look and feel...

       -Jonathan

As I understand it, a trademark applies only to similar products.  Thus
if Intel has trademarked "386", I can't trade in (sell) a chip or
similar semiconductor product called a "386", but I sure can sell a boat
or airplane called a "386", since there is little chance of confusing
the products.

This is as opposed to a brand name, which apparently applies regardless
of the product; I can't make and sell a Kleenex brand cyclotron.
(Although that would be a hell of a way to blow your nose, wouldn't it?)
		- Brian

In article <12...@ucsd.Edu> br...@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>As I understand it, a trademark applies only to similar products.  Thus
>if Intel has trademarked "386", I can't trade in (sell) a chip or
>[etc.] called a "386", but I can sell a boat called a "386"
>
>This is as opposed to a brand name, which apparently applies regardless
>of the product; I can't make and sell a Kleenex brand cyclotron.

There is the "incredible" VAX vacuum cleaner which "does everything but
the windows" or something like that.

I think I'll copyright the copyright symbol.
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In article <54...@sugar.hackercorp.com> pe...@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
>with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
>same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.

Minor correction: There is no constraint that the first and last digits must
be the same. There is a Peugeot 205, for instance.
The first Porsche (the 911) would have been called 901 if
Peugeot hadn't protested.

--F. Lundevall

In article <1276@ttds.UUCP> f@ttds.UUCP (F. Lundevall) writes:
>In article <54...@sugar.hackercorp.com> pe...@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>Not computer related, but Peugot has trademarked all three-digit numbers
>>with the second digit being a zero and the first and last digits being the
>>same. Which is apparently why the Porsche 911 wasn't called the 909.

>Minor correction: There is no constraint that the first and last digits must
>be the same. There is a Peugeot 205, for instance.
>The first Porsche (the 911) would have been called 901 if
>Peugeot hadn't protested.


      The only objection to this theory is that, of over fifty years, the
traditional name for the various models of Mercedes Benz automobile has
been three numbers, often -- but not always -- with a suffix of one or more
letters.  Examples: 450SLC, 560 SEC, 300 SL.

     I do not think that the first and last digits ever matched; in fact,
I cannot think of any example where the last digit is not zero.  However,
I can think of examples where the middle digit was zero: 200, 300, and
500, at least.  If MB can get away with this, why could not Porsche?  I would
have thought that allowing one exception would have lost whatever dubious
claim Peugot would have had on "all three digit numbers with the middle
one zero."




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In article <1276@ttds.UUCP> f@ttds.UUCP (F. Lundevall) writes:
> Minor correction: There is no constraint that the first and last digits must
> be the same. There is a Peugeot 205, for instance.

That doesn't mean Peugot has a trademark on x0y sequences. There was a Porsche
904, for example.

> The first Porsche (the 911) would have been called 901 if
> Peugeot hadn't protested.

909.
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