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ANTS
#1130
Author: jo... Douglas W. Jones201H MLH31...
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1990 16:41
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Anyone remember ANTS?  The ARPANET Terminal Server.
                           ^   ^   ^        ^

It was the first ARPANET host that offered no local computing service, but
merely allowed lots of FTP sessions to remote hosts on the net.  It was
built at the University of Illinois Center for Advanced Computation, and it
is rightly considered to be the predecessor of such machines as the Encore
Annes.

ANTS was based on a PDP-11, and one of the fun things about it was the
visual design.  That was the era when DEC equipment still had decent looks
instead of the industrial bland of the modern machines.  The cabinets were
all black, with an orange and purple stripe across the top.  The folks at
Illinois got custom stenciling on the stripe so it had a row of large black
ants crawling across the stripe.

					Doug Jones
					jo...@herky.cs.uiowa.edu
Re: ANTS
#1131
Author: jo... Douglas W. Jones201H MLH31...
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1990 17:44
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>From article <5...@ns-mx.uiowa.edu>, by jo...@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879):
> Anyone remember ANTS?  The ARPANET Terminal Server.
>                            ^   ^   ^        ^
> 
> It was the first ARPANET host that offered no local computing service, but
> merely allowed lots of FTP sessions to remote hosts on the net.  It was

     PARDON MY FOOT IN MOUTH!  I typed FTP when I wanted to type TCP.

 					Doug Jones
 					jo...@herky.cs.uiowa.edu
Re: ANTS
#1132
Author: wa... Wayne Hathaway
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1990 19:40
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Well, for the time frame I remember working with an ANTS beastie, it
would have been NCP, not TCP!  But really, I think TELNET would be the
most descriptive term.  And also as I remember things (modulo the Kid
Shaleen quote that "booze sure does fog yer mind") the "official"
ARPANET TIP ("Terminal IMP") was about the same time frame; anybody
remember who was really "first."

wayne

  Wayne Hathaway            
  Ultra Network Technologies     domain: wa...@Ultra.COM
  101 Daggett Drive            Internet: ultra!wa...@Ames.ARC.NASA.GOV
  San Jose, CA 95134               uucp: ...!ames!ultra!wayne
  408-922-0100
Re: ANTS
#1133
Author: le... Joel B Levin
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1990 22:00
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In article <1990Jan25.1...@ultra.com> wa...@ultra.com (Wayne Hathaway) writes:
|Well, for the time frame I remember working with an ANTS beastie, it
|would have been NCP, not TCP!  But really, I think TELNET would be the
|most descriptive term.  And also as I remember things (modulo the Kid
|Shaleen quote that "booze sure does fog yer mind") the "official"
|ARPANET TIP ("Terminal IMP") was about the same time frame; anybody
|remember who was really "first."

I don't know if ANTS came out before the TIP, but the TIP was unique
in that no host was required for terminal access to the network.  The
TIP was an IMP (packet switch) with extra hardware and software, and
you could plug your terminal directly into one of the 63 sockets
provided.

I helped in the development of the TIP; the first one was installed at
NASA-AMES in 1971.

	/JBL
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 or {...}!bbn!levin  |  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
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Re: ANTS
#1135
Author: m... Mike Smith
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1990 01:13
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In article <5...@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> jo...@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes:
>Anyone remember ANTS?  The ARPANET Terminal Server.
>  

And what about Fuzzballs?  Anyone have the story on NSF Fuzzballs?  How
did those PDPs get that name?  What's the scoop?
Re: ANTS
#1136
Author: kl...
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1990 01:40
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> ANTS was based on a PDP-11, and one of the fun things about it was the
> visual design.  That was the era when DEC equipment still had decent looks
> instead of the industrial bland of the modern machines.  The cabinets were
> all black, with an orange and purple stripe across the top.  The folks at
                                ^^^^^^
> Illinois got custom stenciling on the stripe so it had a row of large black
> ants crawling across the stripe.

Orange and BLUE, I'll have you know! Have you forgotten the school colors
already?? "Hail to the orange, hail to the blue, hail alma mater, ever so
true," remember?


At least one of those panels survives today, anachronistically pasted to the
front of the VAX 3500 which replaced the VAX-11/780 which replaced the
PDP-11/50 which replaced one of the Center for Advanced Computation
machines. It reads, in some funky sans serif curvy print,

       university of illinois
       ANTS
       arpa network terminal system


And on the right in smaller type,


       DEVELOPED BY THE CENTER FOR ADVANCED COMPUTATION
       AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT URBANA-CHAMPAIGN
       FOR THE ADVANCED RESEARCH PROJECTS AGENCY

       digital equipment corporation - maynard, massachusetts


And there are indeed a line of blue ants crawling across the orange
background, going off the right of the panel, presumably to be
continued on the next panels, which consisted just of ants with no
verbiage. But who knows where they have disappeared to.

_____
Charley Kline, University of Illinois Computing Services
c-k...@uiuc.edu
Re: ANTS
#1134
Author: rave... Paul Raveling
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1990 19:50
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In article <51...@bbn.COM>, le...@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
> 
> I don't know if ANTS came out before the TIP, ...

	Yes, it did.  One byproduct of the system was the ANTS
	IMP interface for PDP-11's.  A "bybyproduct" was the
	ISI IMP interface, which improved on the ANTS design
	in a couple ways.  Originally we used this with the
	Elf operating system, and later rolled our own (EPOS).


----------------
Paul Raveling
Rave...@isi.edu
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