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Started by lcca... Linda Carson
Wed, 13 Dec 1989 16:59
Re: First hand true story (Re: "cookie")
Author: lcca... Linda Carson
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1989 16:59
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1989 16:59
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In article <57...@internal.Apple.COM> c...@Apple.COM (Christopher Pettus) writes: >In article <RODNEY.89D...@dali.ipl.rpi.edu> >rod...@dali.ipl.rpi.edu (Rodney Peck II) writes: >>I'm afraid that parts of this group are starting to become blatant >>urban myth material. Is there _any_ way we can find out what is >>really true before we propagate even more half true material? So far, >>we have buring printers, hopping line printers and disk drives, > >I must confess to not being that concerned about the exact accuracy of >the stories that are being told on this group. That's one of the things >about folklore: it is subject to the "folk process," where it is told, >retold, embellished, changed, etc., until the final result is certainly >not "true" in a strict sense, but still well worth reading. > >Perhaps the best test is to look for a pattern in the stories that are >being told. If _everyone_ has a walking disk drive story, _everyone_ >an exploding monitor story, etc., after a while patterns of folk >process become pretty obvious. But that's OK ... after all, this is >a folklore group, not a solemn forum for well-tested technical information, >and if some people are making stuff up, well, that's fine so long as it's >not boring! >-- >-- Christopher Pettus The first exciting thing about a computer folklore group is swapping great stories -- firsthand experiences, heard-from-a- reliable-source stuff, and classic someone-told-me-about folk tales. Trading horror stories and biggest-bug-I-ever-saw stories happens every time two industry folk are gathered together, just the way it's happening here. But the second exciting thing about a computer folklore group being available *here* and *now* is that we may get a few confirmations and clarifications of the classic computer industry legends, while all of the principals are still at keyboards around the world. Yes, some of these stories have the characteristic format and style of all urban myths. That makes them fun, and us human. But we also have a chance, in this context, to find the real stories, in a way that folks telling tales one-to-one don't have. If you *lived* one of these gems, say so. Give us places, and years, and machine models, and all the dirt. Do not fail to read The Choking Doberman, and The Vanishing Hitchhiker, two books (author & publisher, someone?) which not only tell some widely-known modern urban myths, but track down the alleged principals for confirmation or, usually, denial. Furthermore, this author examines the characteristic patterns of urban myths (such as citing a distant or anonymous source: "I knew a guy who told me"). The fact that something amazing or entertaining is widely-repeated does not necessarily make it untrue. Having seen some washing machines "walk" in my time, I'd be surprised if one couldn't make a disk drive do the same thing. But there are indications you can look for to spot the possibly-apocryphal stories. alt.folklore.computers may be the best of both worlds. We can share *acknowledged* industry folklore, and we may be able to winnow out the genuine articles while we're at it. linda carson
Urban Legend Books
Author: land... Doug Landauer
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1989 19:37
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1989 19:37
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> Do not fail to read The Choking Doberman, and The Vanishing Hitchhiker,
> two books (author & publisher, someone?) which ... tell some
> widely-known modern urban myths ...
The Vanishing Hitchhiker (American Urban Legends
and Their Meanings) [1981]
ISBN 0-393-01473-8
ISBN 0-393-95169-3 {pbk.}
The Choking Doberman (and Other "New" Urban Legends) [1984]
ISBN 0-393-30321-7
The Mexican Pet (More "New" Urban Legends and
Some Old Favorites) [1986]
ISBN 0-393-30542-2
These books were all written by Jan Harold Brunvand, and are
published by W.W.Norton & Co. (New York)
--
Doug Landauer -- land...@eng.sun.com or ...!sun!landauer _
Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- SPD, SET, Languages La no ka 'oi.
Re: Urban Legend Books
Author: ncr... Nichael Cramer
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1989 02:07
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1989 02:07
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In article <129...@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> landauer@sun.UUCP (Doug Landauer) writes: >> widely-known modern urban myths ... > The Vanishing Hitchhiker (American Urban Legends... > The Choking Doberman (and Other "New" Urban Legends) [1984]... > The Mexican Pet (More "New" Urban Legends and... >These books were all written by Jan Harold Brunvand, and are >published by W.W.Norton & Co. (New York) Also: brand new (as of a month or so ago) _Curses, Broiled Again_. NICHAEL | Nichael Lynn Cramer | Baby in Drink | | -- Nic...@BBN.Com | -- Washoe | | -- NCr...@BBN.Com | |
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