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Article #623517Re: Hell is ... ?
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 04:34
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 04:34
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"RS Wood" <r...@therandymon.com> writes: > For the edification of an outsider, who were the big 8? Who are the big 4? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018d.html#9 Hell is ... ? accounting firm wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms Big Eight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms#Big_Eight Big Six https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms#Big_Six Big Five https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms#Big_Five and finally Big Four https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms#Big_Four The Enron collapse and ensuing investigation prompted scrutiny of their financial reporting, which was audited by Arthur Andersen. Arthur Andersen was eventually indicted for obstruction of justice for shredding documents related to the audit in the 2001 Enron scandal. ... snip ... Enron Scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Enron_scandal Note I've mentioned before working on both commercial (with RDBMS vendors) and scientific/technical (with national labs) cluster scaleup as part of our HA/CMP product https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_High_Availability_Cluster_Multiprocessing past posts http://www.garlic.com/subtopic.html#hacmp old post mentioning Jan1992 meeting in Ellison's conference room http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13 a few weeks later, IBM transfers cluster scaleup, announces as supercomputer for technical/scientific *ONLY* and we are told that we can't work on anything with more than four processors. A few months later we depart IBM. Later, two of the Oracle people (referenced at the Jan1992 meeting) have left and are at small client/server startup responsible for something called "commerce server". We are brought in as consultants because they want to do payment transactions on the server, the startup had also invented this technology they called "SSL" they want to use, the result is now frequently called "electronic commerce". Location reference in Mountain view http://allthingsd.com/20100826/tonight-the-lights-go-down-on-netscapes-silicon-valley-hq/ they start undergoing rapid growth and they hire Anderson (some company involved in enron) who brings in a bunch of programmers, they are housed in large warehouse bldg to rear/side of the main bldg ... with cubicles setup up. Part of the issue is that the accounting firms were running consulting business beside the audit business ... contributing to conflict of interests. Note that later, rhetoric on floor of congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors did jailtime, however it required SEC to do something. Possible because GAO didn't believe SEC was doing anything, they start doing reports of fraudulent public company financial filings, even show that they increase after SOX goes into effect. ENRON posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron Sarbanes-Oxley posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley public company fraudulent financial reporting posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud still at it: New Leak Reveals Luxembourg Tax Deals for Disney, Koch Brothers Empire Latest "Lux Leaks" files obtained by ICIJ disclose secret tax structures sought by "Big 4" accounting giants for brand name international companies. https://www.icij.org/investigations/luxembourg-leaks/ tax evasion, tax fraud, tax avoidance, tax haven posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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