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Re: The birth of BASIC

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From: Andreas Kohlbach
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 21:03
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 00:11:12 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc wrote:
>
> On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-6, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On 30 May 2018 01:00:36 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> > Nice program.  I particularly like the way they briefly mention
>> > Bill Gates only to point out that they were there first.
>
>> The first to commercialize on BASIC.
>
> I presume it was "only to point out that (Kemeny and Kurtz) were first (instead 
> of Bill Gates)" that he meant.
>
> It's true the CINET Basic for the PDP-8 was a free program, although it was 
> built from DEC's FOCAL, so you needed a FOCAL license to be permitted to order 
> it from DECUS.
>
> However, BASIC for the Honeywell 316 and 516 came with a price tag, IIRC. And 
> there was CALL/360 BASIC from IBM, and I think Tymshare had BASIC... so I don't 
> think Microsoft was the first to charge money for a BASIC interpreter.

Well (Microsoft) BASIC was part of most of the 8bit computers from the
late 70s to mid 80s. Any "home computer" (but the Lynx if I recall
correctly) booted directly into (MS) BASIC.

Other providers like the mentioned Honeywell might have provided BASIC,
but it were the commercial available computers for the novice in the late
70s and mid 80s kicking off people dealing with BASIC and writing
programs. Just because it came with their computer.
-- 
Andreas

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