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Article #624959Re: usenet history, was 1958 Crisis in education
From: Questor
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 18:23
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 15:40:41 -0000 (UTC), John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote: >In article <5b537e2d...@news.dslextreme.com>, >Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote: >>Usenet posts used to be considered ephemeral; now they're eternal -- even ones >>made many years before Dejanews, let alone Google Groups. > >They were only ephemeral because we didn't have enough disk space to >keep them all. The more disk you had, the more you kept. There were >usenet sites fed by magtape, and I always assumed they kept the tapes. I have never heard of sites getting their newsfeed via magtape, but I suppose it is possible. That certainly would greatly increase the propagation time. Most sites, particularly "leaf" nodes, got their newsgroups (and e-mail) via 1200-baud modems over POTS lines, calling overnight to reduce connection charges. >As others have noted, the fact that we have archives back to 1981 >tells us that *someone* was always keeping them. A more likely explanation is that they found full system backups, and restored the news spool from them.
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