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Article #632979Re: Bible codes
From: Helge Moulding
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:00
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Judson D. McClendon wrote: > You apparently haven't studied the original article You are right. I read it on the web, and my understanding of the author's procedure may be flawed. However, nothing you've written so far has helped me figure out what, if anything, I've missed. > the birth and death dates were found in 'close proximity' to > names to which they belong, but not to the names with which > they did not belong. That is a test I looked for, but did not find. The authors seem to have relied on scrambling the names or the text. If they did compare the frequency with which they could find the names "near" the correct dates as opposed to "near" some arbitrary dates, I never read about it. Can you point out the passage to me? I merely found the test to be one of being surprised to find that it was possible to construct lots of instances of common names using a text that contained lots of instances of the same common names, and then finding that these instances often were "near" the birth or death dates associated with real people who actually had these common names. If you'll look at the table of names, you'll find that most names have a Hebrew version in common with some other name. I suspect that there are millions of Jews who were given these common names, and that their importance to Judaism has nothing to do with the likelihood of being able to construct their names and dates using ELSs from the Torah. This is even easier when you notice that the Hebrew ways of spelling a given date are at least as varied as the ways to spell these names. And then add in the point that the method used by the authors to chose their names is about as haphazard as looking for a name in the phonebook by pointing at random. In any case, you seem to be convinced that the presence of these codes means something. That opinion is probably off topic for half of the groups to which this thread is crossposted, so let's leave it out of the discussion, ok? What's on topic is the question if the discovery of these "codes" is in fact a surprising statistical anomaly. I am saying that given the parameters, the codes are about as unusual as finding two people with the same first names and birthdates in New York City. The authors' haven't convinced me otherwise. -- Helge "Statistical certainties are flukes!" Moulding mailto:h...@slc.unisys.com Just another guy http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1401 with a weird name
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From: Helge Moulding <h...@slc.unisys.com> Subject: Re: Bible codes Date: 1997/09/12 Message-ID: <3419BDA7.712A@slc.unisys.com> X-Deja-AN: 272069142 References: <34099d3c.37917176@news.inter.net.il> <3416AA1D.29ED@slc.unisys.com> <5v74lq$su2@winter.news.erols.com> <341723E2.2BAF@slc.unisys.com> <5v8eb3$ocp$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <01bcbea5$6ac35a00$4534b9ce@juddesk> <3417F622.5B27@slc.unisys.com> <01bcbfa4$86539e60$4334b9ce@juddesk> Organization: The End of My Rope Reply-To: h...@slc.unisys.com Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa,sci.skeptic,sci.math,comp.misc,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.jewish,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.atheism,alt.christnet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit