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Re: Bible codes

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From: Judson D. McClendon
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 00:00
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Stewart Brinn <sbrinn@netcomuk.co.uk.nospam> wrote:
> While I agree with your sentiments, there is a valid point made. It is
> unlikely that any other event this decade will match the tragedy in
> Paris. It is also unlikely that any person this century has caused
> such an outpouring of grief and public sympathy. Should there be a
> valid bible code, surely the events of sunday should be represented. I
> wonder why nothing seems to be predicted, rather only found after the
> event.

Let me respond to that last sentence, because there has been a lot said in
this thread and others who do not understand what the Bible Codes really
are.  I am not a statistics expert, but unlike most of the people writing
on these threads, I have spent some time researching and actually working
with the Bible Codes and used some programs to check it out first hand.  If
you want to know the facts, read the article "Equidistant Letter Sequences
in the Book of Genesis" by Witzum, Rips and Rosenberg, in Statistical
Science magazine (vol. 9, no. 3), August 1994.  In my opinion and, much
more importantly, in the opinion of the authors of the article, you cannot
predict the future with the Bible Codes.  But that doesn't mean that the
Bible Codes aren't real.  They are real and have been objectively
demonstrated under peer review.  The reason why you can't predict the
future with Bible Codes is pretty simple, but to understand why, you need
to understand what the Bible Codes (Equidistant Letter Sequences, ELS for
short) actually are.

In any text, even random combinations of letters, you can select every Nth
letter from the text and here and there find actual words.  The point is
that in any other text other than the original Hebrew of the Bible, the
words you find will fit what would be expected from statistical analysis of
the frequency of the letters.  In other words, you find random words
scattered at random intervals.  Any 'meaningful' word pairings, for
instance, occur only as frequently as you would expect from a random sample
of text with the same letter distribution.  However, study of the original
Hebrew Bible text shows something quite different.  The frequencies of
certain kinds of word pairings have been demonstrated to be far, far above
any random expectation.  Not a little bit more, but thousands of TIMES
more!  There has been petty squabbling about how the word pairings were
selected and tested, but in fact, it doesn't really matter, because no
other text has been shown to have this property to any degree at all,
except for text where patterns were coded on purpose.  Which is the point,
that these patterns simply must have been put there by some intelligence.

Now here's where the future bit actually comes into play, though not in a
way we could use to predict the future.  There are names and events and
dates coded in the Bible which only happened hundreds or thousands of years
after the text was written.  You must remember that in *no other text* has
this been found!  What this means is that, not only was some superior
intelligence involved to actually code these things in the text, but that
the intelligence also knew the future, because the names and events were
coded long before they actually happened.

Then why can't we simply examine the Bible Codes and tell the future? 
Because, not only are those obviously coded words in there, but there are
as many 'random' words as you would find in any other text.  You simply
don't know what words to search for, and when you find words coded, you
don't know if they're part of the actual codes words or just some of the
random words.  The point to remember though, is that every single pair of
names/dates used in the Statistical Science article were found.  The odds
against that happening from random chance are simply staggering.  Somebody
coded those names and dates in there.  In my opinion, nobody but God could
have done it, and the Bible Codes are simply a Divine authentication that
the Bible is His Word.
-- 
Judson McClendon          This is a faithful saying and worthy of all
Sun Valley Systems        acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the
ju...@mindspring.com      world to save sinners  (1 Timothy 1:15)
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From: "Judson D. McClendon" <ju...@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Bible codes
Date: 1997/09/02
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