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Article #632742Re: Colors of Infinity
From: cjp... Jim Sarbeck
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:00
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In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.97061...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>, Virginia Krenn <asd...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> wrote: : On 14 Jun 1997, Jim Sarbeck wrote: : > Could someone explain to me the natural phenomenon leading to the : > discovery that zero factorial is equal to one (0! = 1)? : : If you're trying to make the point that (0! = 1) is not a natural : phenomenon and that it is simply defined as being true, then you are : correct. Well, yes, and if so, there is a fundamental element of mathematics that does not map to any conceivable version of nature. But I have to say that Edd's reply that factorials are a way of ordering things and there is one 'ordering' of nothing, has set me to thinking. For what 'counting property', call it k, of n physical objects is n! a shorthand notation, and does k for zero objects equal one, zero, or what? Does this resolve to combinations and permutations, or what? Regards, Jim Sarbeck *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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From: cjp...@batnet.com (Jim Sarbeck) Subject: Re: Colors of Infinity Date: 1997/06/16 Message-ID: <cjplace-1506971722280001@smpop06.batnet.com> X-Deja-AN: 248703700 References: <5n80rs$c8$1@brokaw.wa.com> <5naqs1$5of$3@brownfox.svs.com> <5nf4qm$p4t$1@unlisys.unlisys.net> <5ni3s5$1s1e@elmo.cadvision.com> <5niove$gb4$1@sue.cc.uregina.ca> <AFC37DE096683010@cara.demon.co.uk> <AFC64CAA96687A802@hearsay.demon.co.uk> <AFC6FC1D96682BE2@cara.demon.co.uk> <AFC8D06196684E19@hearsay.demon.co.uk> <cjplace-1406971534510001@smpop0f.batnet.com> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970615164910.8149X-100000@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu> Organization: Wombat Internet Guild Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa,alt.pagan,sci.skeptic,sci.math,comp.misc,sci.physics,alt.folklore.science,alt.folklore.computers,talk.religion.misc,talk.philosophy.misc,alt.atheism,alt.christnet,seattle.general MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit