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Article #632414Re: Gentlemen, It Must Be Told! - RETRY
From: rob... Robert Ford
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:00
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On Wed, 1 Jan 1997 06:12:36 -0800, Anonymous <whos...@mailmasher.com> wrote: >In article <32c99885...@news.demon.co.uk>, >rob...@fordrjk.demon.co.uk (Robert Ford) wrote: > >> that is unjust, unfair and immoral. > >Anonymous responds: > >Soooo, you think that because there are incidents of sexual >harassment against women there is a need for laws to >discourage this sort of thing. > >Well in case you lack the powers of perception and discernment, >ever since the sexual equality laws were passed, incidents of >sexual hostility, harassment, and forcible rape have increased >with no end in sight. A strong correlation, indeed! > >You intimate that we need more laws to stem the rising tide >of such incidents. This is a typical liberal response - that >is, "Liberalism isn't working because we need more of it." > >Sorry, such laws are not the answer. This is already plainly >obvious beyond a shadow of a doubt. A simpler, more effective >solution would be to revert to the legal system which was in >effect in the late '50's or so. > Might it not possibly be that the increase in reporting of such incidents is due to the fact that there's now some point in reporting them and that something can be done about them? Before these laws came into being, there was little that could be done about them, so most people who were subjected to discriminatory behaviour had no redress. I would suggest that the increase is in the reporting, not in the behaviour, and that rather than there being no end in sight, the number of such cases (over here, anyway) is falling, now that those who practice discrimination are realising they can't get away with it. Also, I would not class forcible rape in with discrimination. > >Robert Ford wrote: > >> Don't really see how any reasonable fair person could argue >> against such laws. > >Anonymous responds: > >I just did. > With respect, you did not. You just said that you think they're a bad thing, without saying why. Are you saying that you're in favour of legal discrimination, eg apartheid? If so, who is to decide which sections of the population are to be discriminated against, or shall we just use the list that Adolf drew up? Even he didn't include women!
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From: rob...@fordrjk.demon.co.uk (Robert Ford) Subject: Re: Gentlemen, It Must Be Told! - RETRY Date: 1997/01/03 Message-ID: <32cc5bd2.1439293@news.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 207374319 x-nntp-posting-host: fordrjk.demon.co.uk references: <199701011412.GAA10075@mailmasher.com> newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants,alt.folklore.computers,alt.mens-rights,alt.org.promisekeepers,alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.equality,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,alt.psychology,alt.sci.sociology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit