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And you attribute all this to women?  Shame on you.  Where are your facts
to corroborate where the breakdown occurred?

My point was that most men do not like it when women succeed (in any form).
 They don't like it when they (men) have to work for a women.  A lot of men
feel that women have taken jobs from them. When in fact it is far from the
truth.
> 
> 1) the rate of fatherlessness quadrupled, the divorce rate more than
> doubled, and the
> illegitimacy rate quadrupled 
 
You blame this on women? Where is the father's responsibility?  It does
take two ya know.
> 
> 2) the murder rate doubled while the "clearance rate" for murders
> declined from 90% to 60% 
 
Don't understand this one. 
 
> 3) the value of the dollar declined almost to a quarter of its previous
> value by the Consumer Price Index and by 11 times by the "gold standard"
> (from $38/oz to $420/oz) 

Look to your president and congress.  The last time I looked the males were
in majority, especially the Commander-in-Chief. 
 
> 4) more was spent on welfare than the entire asset value of every
> Fortune 500 corporation and every acre of farm land combined 

 I repeat on # 3.
 
> 5) the percent of the world's autos supplied by the U.S. declined from
> 60% to 20% 
 
again # 3.  Congress allows more import than export.  
 
> 6) the prison population increased four fold to a rate 4 times that of
> China and 8 to 10 times that of many European nations 
 
What is your point?  They all were not women.
 
> 7) the average weight of an American increased 25 pounds 

Society in general.   
  
> Since the 1970s: 
  > 1) GDP per worker declined 70% by the gold standard 
 
Don't understand this one either.   
 
> 2) the "Personal Savings" rate declined to less than 2%, versus 25% in
> Japan 
 
 Society.
 
> 3) the public debt increased 8 fold AND the U.S. is the largest debtor
> nation in world history 
 
Congress and pres again. 
 
> 4) abortions more than doubled 
 
Takes two. If men were there to support, alot of them would not occur. 
 
> 5) cocaine use rose 45% in spite of the world's harshest "drug war" and
> a 10 fold increase in criminal justice system expenditures -- which now
> exceed the budget for national defense 
 
Most dealers are men. 
 
> 6) the trade deficit increased from "in the black" to $123 Billion "in
> the red" 

Congress 
 
> 7) government spending as a percent of the average American's income
> exceeded 42%, and is rising, compared to 27% in Japan and 32% in the
> U.S. 3 decades ago 

Congress 
 
> 8) drunk driving arrests increased 5 fold while the motor vehicle
> fatality rate increased from 30% lower than Germany's to 45% higher 
 
Most offenders are male. 
 
> 9) health services costs increased 8 fold and the paperwork required to
> meet government
> regulations costs 3% of GDP 
 
Congress. 
 
> 10) SAT scores declined 75 points, putting the US in almost last place
> in both math and
> language in international comparisons 
 
Have we fallen behind? Or did the other nations just surpass to catch up to
us? 
 
> 11) the percent of children living with married parents declined from
> 39% to 26% 
 
 Takes two people equally.
 
> 12) the amount of time PER DAY that children watch TV increased from 5
> hours to 7 hours 
 
 Where is the father's influence?
 
> 13) the number of the world's Top 40 Banks which were U.S. declined from
> 22 to only one
> (with assets of $120 Billion while 24 were Japanese with assets of
> $5,000 Billion) 
 
Most are managed by men.  Look at the stock exchange.  Only (1/one)  women
sets the board.  Gee does she really have that much influence?
 
> 14) we have 50 times more lawyers than Japan while Japan has 4 times as
> many engineers 
 
?????
 
> 15) the ratio of manufacturing employees to government employees
> declined from 2.5:1 to less than 1:1 
 
Where are your facts coming from? 
 
> 16) total US "Personal Savings" are $212 Billion while Japan has $12,000
> Billion (that is $12 Trillion) just in their "Postal Savings Accounts" 
 
Less income and more expense. 
 
> 17) "a 560% increase in violent crime, a 419% increase in illegitimate
> births, a 3000% increase in single-parent households, and a drop of
> almost 80 points in SAT scores." (source: The Guardian) 
 
Again, takes two people and more to manage a family.  And where is the man
when the woman is left to care for the children???? 
 
> 18) unsubstantiated child abuse reports increased 8 fold and
> unsubstantiated sexual abuse reports increased 28 fold 
 
By whom? 
 
> Which part of this do you give credit to women for?

You propose to blame this on women without having any demographics to prove
your point.
Most of what you talk about is coming from decisions made by congress and
the president which is very male dominated.   It always takes two people
(Male and Female) to make a nuclear family.  If the family fails it is the
blame of both parties.

Boy you really give a lot of power to women. Didn't realize that I got
equal pay, equal votes and equal say.  

Would be glad to debate if you had the supporting demographics and data to
prove your point.

If there are so many problems as this, why not run for office and try to
change it.  Never bring up a problem without having a solution

Regards,
Sandi