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Re: PDP 11/40 system manual

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From: Peter Flass
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:53
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2018-08-12, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-08-11, Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:51:18 +0000, Huge wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2018-08-10, Bill Findlay <findl...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> [39 lines snipped]
>> 
>>>>> There will be a talk on ICL 1900 Series resurrection next month:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Title: ICL 1900 Software Recovery Speaker: Bill Gallagher, Delwyn
>>>>> Holroyd &  Brian Spoor Date: Thursday 20th September 2018 Time: 14:30
>>>>> Location: BCS, 5 Southampton St, London WC2E 7HA
>> 
>> SFPBA. Can't go. Why is it that events on my otherwise sparse calender
>> tend to cluster together?
> 
> I once heard a saying: "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from
> happening at once."  Too bad it's totally wrong.
> 
>> I learned RPG2 [gag, spit, cough] for a project at Associated Televison
>> to migrate their payroll from a 1900 Autocoder system to a 2903 RPG2
>> [nausea] one. I went on a 2 week course at ICL to learn RPG2 [Ghod, I
>> think I'm actually going to vomit] for that.
> 
> I learned RPG2 at the beginning of my career.  My attitude was a bit
> more conciliatory: I found it pretty good at doing what it wasn intended
> to do, i.e. generate report programs (although that 1P indicator nonsense
> obviously came from someone who never learned how to properly handle page
> overflows).
> 
> The one that made me gag was RPG3.  That's when IBM forgot what RPG
> stood for and started writing screen-based interactive programs with it.
> 

At a great remove I guess RPG was in the same class as "4GLs", like MarkIV,
SPSS/SAS when used as report generators, Manage on Sigma systems, and lots
of similar stuff. RPG suffered by being card-column oriented, but otherwise
these all had the idea of a built-in loop to process records.

-- 
Pete
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Subject: Re: PDP 11/40 system manual
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