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Article #625620Re: PDP 11/40 system manual
From: Peter Flass
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:53
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:53
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2018-08-12, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2018-08-11, Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 09:51:18 +0000, Huge wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-08-10, Bill Findlay <findl...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >> [39 lines snipped] >> >>>>> There will be a talk on ICL 1900 Series resurrection next month: >>>>> >>>>> Title: ICL 1900 Software Recovery Speaker: Bill Gallagher, Delwyn >>>>> Holroyd & Brian Spoor Date: Thursday 20th September 2018 Time: 14:30 >>>>> Location: BCS, 5 Southampton St, London WC2E 7HA >> >> SFPBA. Can't go. Why is it that events on my otherwise sparse calender >> tend to cluster together? > > I once heard a saying: "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from > happening at once." Too bad it's totally wrong. > >> I learned RPG2 [gag, spit, cough] for a project at Associated Televison >> to migrate their payroll from a 1900 Autocoder system to a 2903 RPG2 >> [nausea] one. I went on a 2 week course at ICL to learn RPG2 [Ghod, I >> think I'm actually going to vomit] for that. > > I learned RPG2 at the beginning of my career. My attitude was a bit > more conciliatory: I found it pretty good at doing what it wasn intended > to do, i.e. generate report programs (although that 1P indicator nonsense > obviously came from someone who never learned how to properly handle page > overflows). > > The one that made me gag was RPG3. That's when IBM forgot what RPG > stood for and started writing screen-based interactive programs with it. > At a great remove I guess RPG was in the same class as "4GLs", like MarkIV, SPSS/SAS when used as report generators, Manage on Sigma systems, and lots of similar stuff. RPG suffered by being card-column oriented, but otherwise these all had the idea of a built-in loop to process records. -- Pete
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