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Article #625054Re: remembering MRC
From: Charles Richmond
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:09
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 09:09
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On 7/21/2018 1:35 PM, Questor wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:47:31 -0400, Richard Thiebaud <thieba...@aol.com> > wrote: >> On 07/19/2018 12:25 PM, Charles Richmond wrote: >>> On 7/19/2018 9:33 AM, Dan Espen wrote: >>>> Charles Richmond <nume...@aquaporin4.com> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 7/18/2018 2:27 PM, Stephen M. Jones wrote: >>>>>> The past couple of weeks I've been thinking about MRC a lot. He was a >>>>>> fixture on alt.sys.pdp10 and I'm sure people thought of him as a pretty >>>>>> difficult person. I knew him in person and I know the MRC face to >>>>>> face was >>>>>> different than what you might come across on alt.sys.pdp10. I >>>>>> recently came >>>>>> across a memo authored by BAH regarding 3M and the shortage of >>>>>> DECTAPES, >>>>>> et cetera and I also came across boxes carefully arranged by MRC from >>>>>> Stanford that had not been opened until now. >>>>>> >>>>>> MRC was a private person and if he was a friend you could get to him. >>>>>> For instance, he once gave me a DTMF code that would bypass his anti- >>>>>> telemarketer setup on his phone when I need to all him on >>>>>> Bainbridge. But >>>>>> MRC could also turn on you and if he thought you had nothing to say, >>>>>> he'd >>>>>> write an SMTP response that you'd get that would say something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> 451: STOP TALKING ABOUT IT ALREADY >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I still have that response somewhere. >>>>>> >>>>> ISTM that MRC did *not* "suffer fools lightly"... nor should he have >>>>> done that IMO. If you asked a question on <alt.sys.pdp10> ... a >>>>> question that showed the asker had *not* worked much on his problem >>>>> ... MRC would deride you and *not* offer any answers (other than to >>>>> suggest you go away). If a person's question indicated that the asker >>>>> had done a lot of work on the problem, MRC was willing to offer help. >>>>> >>>>> MRC was *not* a baby sitter ... if you understood that, you'd get >>>>> along fine with him. IMHO >>>>> >>>>> I miss his presence on <alt.sys.pdp10> . >>>> >>>> This MRC fellow doesn't sound like a nice person. >>>> >>>> I've met more than a few people that acted like that and >>>> never found it to be an endearing trait. >>>> >>>> I know I'm smarter than average but don't see any point in >>>> lording over the less gifted. >>> >>> Mr. Espen, even you can get tired of people with stupid questions... >>> people who waste your time and talents because they are too lazy (or not >>> really interested enough) to do a *little* work and look things up >>> themselves. >>> >> Yes, but he doesn't have to get unpleasant about it. > > I wholeheartedly agree. > > I don't know if Mark ever had a support job where he was expected to help people > with less technical sophistication, so perhaps he could get a pass on being > polite. And certainly there were no expectations or requirements regarding his > behavior on Usenet. > But as you said... Usenet is *not* a "support job", or ant kind of work for pay. If little simpering nitwits want to waste your time with dumb questions (the answers to which one could find themselves with a little effort), one is *not* required to "help" them. Mark was *not* "the jackass whisperer". He had *no* desire and *no* responsibility to solve other people's problems. > More than once I have seen management hire or favor people with more personable > demeanors over those who were more technically capable. Businesses want smooth > operation, and that goal isn't aided by people who insult or demean their > coworkers. As others have noted, the mark of a truly superior technical person > is being able to work with the less knowledgeable and explain things to them. > The irascible genius may be a common stereotype in fiction, but they're not very > pleasant to work with. > If being on Usenet was a "job", then you might have a point. But posting on Usenet is *not* a job. -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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