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Article #625017Re: The history of the MONITOR tops-10)
From: Johnny Billquist
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 19:12
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 19:12
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On 2018-07-15 14:58, John Levine wrote:
> In article <pif63v$4av$2...@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>,
>> You are most probably absolutely right. But I talked about Tops-20, not
>> TOPS-10. :-)
>
> How many ways can there be to say that this block of memory corresponds to
> that file, and use the pager to move it back and forth?
Not sure. But I know many systems don't even have the concept. And on
some systems transfers to/from files are done through system calls with
DMA running directly to user buffers without going through the whole VM
system, which might be argued is even more efficient.
So, even the idea to use the VM subsystem for file access is not
something that is that universal.
And then you have the question of details of implementation and API. I
bet there might be some creative solutions out there, if you start
searching.
Johnny
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