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Article #625000Re: The history of the MONITOR tops-10)
From: Johnny Billquist
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 10:01
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 10:01
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On 2018-07-15 01:59, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 21:22:17 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> Disk directly to buffers in user space in Linux? Sure, it's called mmap.
>> Which, by the way, is more or less a direct ripoff from TOPS-20.
>
> Which was a ripoff from MULTICS and EMAS.
I'm not sure about that. Multics, from what I read, considered memory
and files to be the same thing. This is sort of a different idea than
saying that you can map a file into a specific part of your memory. I
have no idea how or what EMAS is. :-)
But the comment about the ripoff goes as far as the Unix mmap API being
pretty much a copy of TOPS-20.
Johnny
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