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Article #624961Re: usenet history, was 1958 Crisis in education
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 20:06
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 20:06
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John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> writes: > It definitely happened, I knew the guy who made the tapes. It was a > government agency that didn't want any live connections between their > computers and the outside. The tapes probably slowed things down by a > few days but in that era it wasn't a big deal. similar to tapes I was getting for VMSHARE computer conferencing from TYMSAHRE (from aug1976), i've mentioned the biggest problem I had was with IBM lawyers afraid that IBM employees would be contaminated by customer information ... VMSHARE archive http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare but the pagesat (one-way satellite broadcast receive-only) USENET feed that I did the unix & ms/dos drivers for their receive-only modem ... which was purely one-way and wouldn't be "live". pc needed to have 16550 UART https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16550_UART recent ref: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018e.html#51 usenet history, was 1958 Crisis in education in the late 70 & early 80s, I had been blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the beginning until sometime mid=80s). Folklore is that when corporate executive committee was told about online computer conferencing (and the internal network), 5of6 wanted to fire me. One of the outcomes was official computer conferencing application (recipients could choose between mailing list type of operation or usenet "server" type of operation) and corporate officially sanctioned and moderated newsgroups. bitnet was corporate sponsored university network using similar technology that was used for internal network (originated at cambridge science center). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET the original bitnet listserv was done 1984 ... effectively, just the mailing list part of the internal IBM application (TOOLSRUN) somebody that had spent sabbatical from IBM france at the science cneter ... then is transferred to Paris and tasked with doing EARN (bitnet in europe) then sent me this email ... looking for online/network-oriented applications. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001h.html#email840320 the current (earn/bitnet) listserv was then done in Paris in 1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LISTSERV http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-history.asp http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2010/08/the_joy_of_listservs.html internal network posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet bitnet posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#bitnet science center posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech total topic drift, the listserv slate article for some reason references this article by James Fallows https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/07/on-todays-hot-media-stories-sherrod-journolist/60210/ who happened to have written numerous articles about Boyd and the military reform movement ... Boyd posts & web URLs http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subboyd.html -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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