Re: 1958 Crisis in education

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From: Questor
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 16:46

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On 25 Jul 2018 18:03:41 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>On 2018-07-25, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
>> On 24 Jul 2018 18:17:15 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>On 2018-07-24, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Jul 2018 09:19:03 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>On 2018-07-21, Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
>>>>>> Usenet posts used  to be considered ephemeral; now they're eternal -- even ones
>>>>>> made many years before Dejanews, let alone Google Groups.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has always been safest to assume that the Internet is forever.
>>>>
>>>> Always?  No. 
>>>
>>>Always. Yes.
>>
>> Bzzzt.  Sorry, that's incorrect.  Thanks for playing!
>
>You're not even answering the right question, much less getting the answer
>right.

You are operating with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight.

Please tell us, what will "always have been safest to assume" in twenty to
thirty years about some new technology that is just being developed today.

In the 1980s, Usenet was *explicitly* designed and operated such that posts were
ephemeral.  Newsfeed retention times were measured in days, not years or even
months.  While it wasn't impossible to imagine otherwise, at the time it would
have been an exercise in pure fantasy to do so.

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