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Article #624174Re: OT: Trump
From: Jorgen Grahn
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:13
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:13
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On Wed, 2018-07-25, Huge wrote: > On 2018-07-25, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <ste...@eircom.net> wrote: >>> On 25 Jul 2018 09:54:23 GMT >>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote: >>> >>>> All those things can be done well or badly. For example, back when I >>>> was in a proper Scrum team, the Scrum Master was just another team >>>> member, who also worked part-time as the team's secretary. Planning >>>> was Post-It notes on a whiteboard, and so on. >> >> My question is, why keep inventing new terminology for something that >> successful developers have been doing since the 1960s, at least? It >> succeeds in making something simple sound esoteric. There are /some/ good reasons: to give it a name and to get attention. The Agile manifesto, if you go back to that, doesn't obfuscate. > So people can sell books, training courses, consultancy and so on? To the extent that this means worse methodologies get replaced, I'm all for it. Of course it may also mean having the same people do what they always did, while also paying lip service to e.g. Scrum. Then it would be better to be honest about it and stick with what you have. > Also, don't forget that everything comes round again, and > development methodologies are no different. The 60's were a long > time ago. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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