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Article #624032Re: Which are the dinosaurs, the computers or the computerists?
From: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 14:25
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 14:25
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On 21/06/2018 14:36, Dan Espen wrote: > Gareth's Downstairs Computer > <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> writes: > >> Having cut my teeth on the DEC computers (PDP8/E used as >> the basis of many aspects of 3rd year electronics at >> Essex Uni in 1972 and then 10 years as an assembly >> language programmer on PDP11s in real-time embedded >> applications), that basic understanding of fundamental >> instruction set operation has stood me in good stead >> for nearly 50 years, but times change. >> >> Although the essence of programs remains, as it >> always will, in such instructions operating on >> a user's data, what has developed around it in the >> areas of cacheing, pipelining and parallel execution >> has never really figured in my program designs, although >> much appreciated in the speed of computation that was on >> offer. >> >> Today, I became aware of the Microsoft E2 EDGE development >> making me feel as though I could be the prototypical >> Rip Van Winkle in the world of computing; a dinosaur >> from yesteryear to accompany the PDP8 that wsa in the >> Brit Science Museum as long ago as 1999! :-) > > This is one of those cases where links would help: > > https://web.archive.org/web/20160428161757/http://research.microsoft.com:80/en-us/projects/e2 > > (deleted page from Microsoft Researchโs website) > > Referring article here: > > https://fossbytes.com/microsoft-linux-windows-10-e2-edge-cpu/ > > Microsoft has called E2 โa research project, and there are currently > no plans to productize it.โ > > Not sure this will help. I tihnk Z/Architecture has a few instructions > along these lines. I don't believe they are actually in use > anywhere. > Thanks, can't recall the original sighting but have since been through both of those pages. Must we fear the day when Microsoft comes to own the web archive?
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