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Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2018-06-21, Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 4:53:32 AM UTC-6, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> JimP <solo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> The first one, now number 4, was the best sf movie since Forbidden
>>>>> Planet. My high school buddies and I had given up ever seeing a
>>>>> good sf movie again. I was in a small nothing town out in Texas
>>>>> when the first movie came out. I drove over, expecting maybe 10 or
>>>>> 20 people in line to see it. 
>>> 
>>>> My recollection is foggy, but my thought at the time was that Star
>>>> Wars dropped in as a full-featured sci-fi movie into a desert of
>>>> creature features and cheap B movies. 
>>> 
>>> Star Wars was a great and highly entertaining movie.
>> 
>> Star Wars was a dull, derivative and tiresome movie.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2001: A Space Odyssey was quite a way in the past, and Star Trek: The
>>> Motion Picture was in the future.
>>> 
>>> Other major science fiction films that I can think of also go back to
>>> the 60s, and many of them were relatively low-budget releases... 
>> 
>> Budget does not a movie make. For example, these are all better than
>> Star Wars and yet had budgets a fraction of what Lucas spent; "The
>> Girl With All The Gifts", "Under The Skin", "Cargo".
>> 
>>> The Andromeda Strain
>>> Westworld
>>> Planet of the Apes
>>> 
>>> Star Wars, of course, wasn't really like _any_ of those; it wasn't
>>> *serious* SF. 
>> 
>> I'd argue it wasn't SF at all. It's Robin Hood in space with a dash of
>> WW2 fighter ace mixed in.
>> 
> 
> And some westerns. Of course it's derivative, but a lot of this is
> tongue-in-cheek, and it was fun picking out the allusions.

Yeah, I recall a review in 1977 describing Star Wars as a cowboy movie in 
space suits.  I kind of enjoyed the special effects after I turned of my 
physicist brain.  I never bothered with any of the others except that I had 
to take my kids to The Phantom Menace.  I would have fallen asleep if it 
hadn't been so noisy.  (The critics all hated JarJar Binks. I thought he was 
the best thing in the movie. :( )
As for asslusions the John Carter, Buck Rogers, etc deriviations were 
obvious, but who among us would have picked up on 21-87? (certainly not me.)