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Article #623598Re: The birth of BASIC
From: Gareths Downstairs Computer
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:19
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 15:19
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On 03/06/2018 08:06, David Wade wrote: > On 02/06/2018 21:07, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: >> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:23:56 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote: >>> >>> On 02/06/2018 03:44, John Levine wrote: >>>> In article <cb11f87e-44a9-4f0b...@googlegroups.com>, >>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dartmouth's compiler was quite impressive, typically compiling an >>>> entire program in one or two clock ticks. It was so fast that nobody >>>> bothered to save object code. >>> >>> Interesting, does that also indicate interactive development where >>> the compilation speed would be largely unapparent? >> >> I guess I am missing a link here. Why did none of the BASICs coming with >> the 8bit micros need a compiler and rather interpret the code instead? >> > I guess in the early days there were not many folks with the cash for a > floppy disk drive. Given you are working with tape loading and running > from memory is attractive... Well it certainly was a pain in the bum on an early PDP11/20 with a 10 chars per sec tape reader on the teletype! 3/4 hour to load the editor, then another 3/4 hour to load the assembler, not to even mention the two passes of source through the assembler!
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