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Article #623594Re: The birth of BASIC
From: Peter Flass
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 21:40
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2018 21:40
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jun 2018 16:07:09 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach > <a...@spamfence.net> wrote: > >> On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 12:23:56 +0100, Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote: >>> >>> On 02/06/2018 03:44, John Levine wrote: >>>> In article <cb11f87e-44a9-4f0b...@googlegroups.com>, >>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dartmouth's compiler was quite impressive, typically compiling an >>>> entire program in one or two clock ticks. It was so fast that nobody >>>> bothered to save object code. >>> >>> Interesting, does that also indicate interactive development where >>> the compilation speed would be largely unapparent? >> >> I guess I am missing a link here. Why did none of the BASICs coming with >> the 8bit micros need a compiler and rather interpret the code instead? > > I think the real issue is the nature of a compiler and cost and > availability of hardware. > > A compiler takes a source program, generates an object program, and > then to actually do anything you need to load and execute the object > program. > > To make this work you need to have enough storage of some kind (paper > tape, mag tape, disk, drum, RAM, doesn't matter, you need to have > enough) to store all the pieces. Early micros did not have much RAM > and typically if they had a storage device other than the operator's > paper notebook it was paper tape or an audio cassette recorder, so > turnaround time for compiled code would be slow. > > An interpreter only needs storage for the source code, a scratchpad, > and the output, so it can run reasonably well on a machine with > limited RAM and a slow storage device, hence the popularity on early > hobbyist micros (and yes, to the nits who think that hobbyists are > only allowed to own toys, I mean the ALTAIR and its clones). > Good point. -- Pete
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