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Article #623535Re: Hell is ... ?
From: JimP
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56
Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 14:56
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 10:36:24 -0700 (PDT), hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >On Sunday, May 20, 2018 at 11:49:29 AM UTC-4, Dan Espen wrote: > >> > Perhaps. But even in these cases, a consultant needs more >> > than the gift of the blarney if disasters are to be avoided. >> >> I sure don't have the gift of blarney. That's for the salesmen. >> I relied on honesty and talent. My employer understood fully that >> when I showed up at the client site, some of the salesman >> promises would have to be taken back. > >Having good communication skills and able to present an >intelligent, organized, and interesting presentation, >especially of technical material, is a very valuable skill, >and a lot of programmers don't have it. > >Some programmers take seminars or training in public speaking >and pick up useful skills they didn't even know about, and how >to avoid distracting habits (like jingling keys/change while >speaking, having the talk properly organized, noting timing, >giving not too much detail, etc.) > >Many technical people did not care for their schoolwork in >public-speaking assignments. > >Today, with video common, someone can film their talk and play it back >and see how they come off. > >This is all different than the "gift of blarney" of salesman >presenting B/S that they don't even know what it means. > >IBMers were well trained in this. Mentioned before was the >big difference between IBMers and representatives from other >computer firms. Amazing that the other companies never caught >on, it was not a secret. > >(But then I'm amazed that Burger King can't run its outlets as >well as McDonald's does, despite 50 years of experience.) Yeah, you can get stale food outside main meal times at Burger King, but not at McDonalds.
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