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Article #623295Re: Quantity of machine code programmers and quantity of Assembly programmers
From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:36
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 18:36
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: >On 2018-04-27, Charles Richmond <nume...@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > >> People are even more discouraged from learning or using machine or >> assembly code by the *awful* instruction set of x86 processors. So lets >> say that *fewer* people code in assembly language than would code in >> assembly language... if the processor had a decent, reasonable, >> logically devised instruction set. > >When x86 first came out, I was heavily into assembly language programming - >mostly IBM 360 and clones, but a few others as well. Early x86 programming >was sufficiently horrible that I decided to get out of assembly language >programming. Fortunately C was on the rise, so I had somewhere to go. >That saved me a lot of pain: not all, because even in C I had to worry >about that damned 64K barrier imposed by the segmented architecture. >Newer models of x86 might be better, but I don't care anymore. They've been better since 1985 (80386 32-bit flat address space). Got much better when AMD added 64-bit support to the opteron in 2003 (flat address space across the entire 64-bit physical address, a bunch more registers, supports 32-bit code, etc.)
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