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Re: Quantity of machine code programmers and quantity of Assembly programmers

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From: Charles Richmond
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:25
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On 4/27/2018 9:08 AM, Walter Banks wrote:
> On 2018-04-26 7:47 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
>> On 4/26/18 4:23 PM, manh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Currently how many programmers coding in machine code? Currently
>>> how many programmers coding in Assembly?
>>
>> These are unanswerable questions. No one even knows how many
>> programmers there are.
>>
>>
>>
> I have a couple data points. I worked on the ISA of a co-processor for
> automotive and general aviation engine controllers. We wrote a C
> compiler for this processor. We did not initially provide an assembler
> for this processor (compile directly to machine code) This a heavily
> used processor with hundreds of new applications per year (10's million
> devices per year) Two years after release we released an assembler. No
> one had ever complained to support.
> 
> Since then I know of a single piece of application code written in
> assembler that has been released for shipment by a customer.
> 

I know Walter Banks is *not* discussing an x86 processor....  but...

People are even more discouraged from learning or using machine or 
assembly code by the *awful* instruction set of x86 processors.  So lets 
say that *fewer* people code in assembly language than would code in 
assembly language...  if the processor had a decent, reasonable, 
logically devised instruction set.


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numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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