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Article #623253Re: Tahoe and Alpha Architectures
From: Scott Lurndal
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:59
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:59
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Grant Taylor <gta...@tnetconsulting.net> writes: >On 04/24/2018 01:43 PM, Charles Richmond wrote: >> The Tahoe architecture and the DEC Alpha architecture both are much >> nicer on the assembly level than the x86 architecture. Not many here >> would disagree with that. Why does Intel *not* produce modern versions >> of those architectures and PC makers use those??? > >I'm not familiar with Tahoe and can't comment. > >Alpha was developed by DEC, purchased by Compaq and subsequently HP. >Thus HP owns the Intellectual Property of the Alpha CPUs. — At least >the portion that did not get sold off to other companies. — I would be >somewhat surprised if there aren't pieces of Alpha architecture deep in >the bowels of other CPU architectures. Many of the Alpha folks ended up at Cavium. Most programmers didn't like alpha at all. The weakly-ordered memory model and non-coherent DMA caused too many problems, especially for kernel people. And nobody cares about the underlying instruction set anymore because nobody (relative to the entire mass of programmers in existence) programs in assembler in modern times.
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