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Article #623188Re: Has Microsoft commited suicide ...
From: Peter Flass
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:47
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:47
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J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:04:24 -0400, Peter Flass > <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 23:39:17 -0400, Richard Thiebaud >>> <thieba...@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 06/21/2018 10:48 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 17:47:13 -0400, Peter Flass >>>>> <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> On 2018-06-20, Charles Richmond <nume...@aquaporin4.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/20/2018 12:30 AM, Quadibloc wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 8:35:51 AM UTC-6, >>>>>>>>> Gareth's Downstairs Computer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ... by its monopolistic attitude towards the PC now >>>>>>>>>> that the World and its family are moving en masse to the >>>>>>>>>> ARM processors? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is the PC also dying in the light of the RPi3, a 64 >>>>>>>>>> bit processor available for the price of a few bananas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Although I thought Microsoft was doing just fine with its x86 >>>>>>>>> orientation - it has a foot in the ARM camp too, but there it >>>>>>>>> doesn't offer the ability to run all those old applications... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> apparently they agree with you in part at Microsoft. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/18/microsoft_e2_edge_windows_10/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So Microsoft *can* move to other processors! I'd like to see the DEC >>>>>>>> Alpha chip updated to the current micron state of the technology... >>>>>>>> IMHO we need realistic alternatives to the x86 architecture. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once we have a realistic alternative to Microsoft, the problem >>>>>>> solves itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We have had realistic alternatives since the 80's. What re need is a >>>>>> realistic alternative to the sheeple who won't see it. >>>>> >>>>> First you need to make a case that it's actually a realistic >>>>> alternative. If it makes us replace our current staff with one ten >>>>> times the size in order to do manually all the stuff that we now do >>>>> using features unique to Windows that are not replicated on other >>>>> platforms, then it is not a win. >>>>> >>>> What features are unique to Windows? >>> >>> The whole Component Object Model for one thing. There may be >>> equivalents on other platforms but if we can't take our existing code >>> and plunk it onto the new system and have it work the same way then >>> it's a net cost for us. >>> >> >> As I said, if it's working there's no money to be made by switching to >> something else, even something better. > > Make a convincing case for the "betterness". One that the people in > the trenches will buy, not one that some manager will buy. Our > systems keep getting more and more and more complex because various > "consultants" keep convincing management that they have something > "better" than our "klunky old COBOL and APL", and so we have a half a > dozen other systems in place supporting various products. A hundred > years from now our systems are going to be a rolling museum of a human > lifetime of computer industry fads. > It's got to be _a lot_ better to justify the cost of conversion, or else some hardware/software upgrade has to break one of the components to force a change. -- Pete
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