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Article #623180Re: Has Microsoft commited suicide ...
From: Peter Flass
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:47
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 15:47
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Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com> wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:04:25 -0400, Peter Flass <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> J. Clarke <jclarke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:56:09 -0400, Peter Flass >>> <peter...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Gareth's Downstairs Computer >>>> <headstone255.but.n...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On 22/06/2018 11:37, Peter Flass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Isn't Mono a clone of .net? What does the common runtime do especially that >>>>>> other libraries don't? (actual question, not rhetorical) >>>>> All the source languages link together. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sort of like all the gnu languages, the IBM mainframe languages with LE, or >>>> all the DEC languages with the common runtime? Leave it to microsoft to >>>> claim they invented sunshine. >>> >>> Except that the gnu languages and LE don't produce binaries that will >>> run without further adjustment on an Alpha, an Itanium, a Sparc, and a >>> PC, which, in principle, is true of CLR (I say "in principle" because >>> I don't know if the versions of Windows that made it to the Alpha and >>> Sparc are recent enough to support CLR). >> >> In theory they can, although I don't know if any do in practice. ELF >> binaries can contain objects for multiple architectures. Or are you talking >> about something that's interpreted? That sounds like a spectacular waste if >> resources. > > Not interpreted but just in time compilation. > > Normally with .net the compilation stage runs ngen and compiles the CIL > (common intermediate language) down to native ahead of time and people > deploy that. So it isn't usually the case that you can take the x86 > version of a .NET application and run it on another architecture. You can > however choose to take the CIL assembly and run that anywhere there is a CLR > (and appropriate support libraries which is where Mono is sometimes lacking). > I would also note that there are some cases where the JIT version is faster > than the ahead of time compiled ngen output. > > As someone said, it sounds like Java, where the bytecode can be generated from any language if the compiler is set up to handle it. -- Pete
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