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Re: Has Microsoft commited suicide ...

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From: Mike Spencer
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:09
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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com writes:

> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 4:53:29 AM UTC-4, David Wade wrote:
>> 
>>> So have you installed Firefox or Chrome?  More and more web sites
>>> don't work on ANY Microsoft browser you know.
>>> 
>> 
>> Examples? There are a few that won't work with Edge but not many...
> 
> Well, Wikipedia won't work with my old browser.  Why not?  

Huh.  I can read Wikipedia pages with my "new" browser: FF 2.0.0.13.
But I get multiple pop-up windows reporting that login.wikimedia.org
and upload.wikimedia.org use an unsupported crypto protocol. No easy
way to determine what FF wants to fetch from these other servers --
possibly images although I get at least some images if I enable it in
the browser.

Of course I don't trust the net not to attack me but neither do I
trust the complicated process of certificates and crypto itself not to
be penetrated far beyond my level of awareness.  So I wish sites whose
proprietors want to use crypto would just negotiate the protocol and
use whatever protocol (or none) that my browser supports.  For any
case where I really care, I take pains to minimize any harm that might
arise from a successful attack and use a relatively up to date
browser.

> Why the heck should they care?

If your doctor routinely uses current "best practice" but fails to be
attentive to your own unique case, symptoms, circumstance & reports in
detail, it will speed h{is,er} workday but you won't be entirely happy
(sometimes, perhaps, very unhappy) with the results.  A good physician
*starts* at "best practice" but is attentive to detail.  Website
managers are free of the physician's Hippocratic onus which is
typically replaced with the Friedman onus:

       Few trends could so thoroughly undermine the very foundations
       of our free society as the acceptance by corporate officials of
       a social responsibility other than to make as much money for
       their stockholders as possible.     -- Milton Friedman



-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada
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From: Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
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Subject: Re: Has Microsoft commited suicide ...
Date: 26 Apr 2018 02:09:16 -0300
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