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Article #621526Re: Old word processors
From: Peter Flass
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:45
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:45
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<hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-4, Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > > >> this was in period (late 70s/early 80s) where 3270 terminals were part >> of fall budget cycle and each one required VP-level sign-off. Then there >> was a rapidly spreading rumor that some of the corporate executive >> committee members were using email ... and all of a sudden every middle >> manager in the company had to have 3270 terminal on their desk (even if >> they never actually used them, spending the day with the vm370 login >> screen or possibly PROFS menu being burned into screen) ... pre-empting >> annual 3270 terminal deliveries justified for development projects. > > When PCs came out, every manager wanted one for the prestige > of it, and also wanted the better models (faster chip). The > people who actually did work got stuck with the lesser models. > So a manager would have a nice AT that never got touched, while > the clerk pounding away all day had the XT. > > As to terminals, I think most places started off with a > terminal room where the terminals were shared among a large > staff of programmers. Then as the cost dropped, more and > more programmers got them. For us, it was in 1989 that > finally every programmer got a terminal. > > One welcome terminal feature (I think provided by the controller) > was the ability to get multiple sessions and easily toggle between > them. This way a programmer could look at his source code and > then the execution on CICS. > > (Another welcome feature was software that allowed one to step > through execution of a CICS program, being able to look at results > of each line and of all the fields. We had both the IBM product > and the one from an independent vendor.) > > >> other trivia: PROFS group had collecting some number of internal >> applications (including telephone books) and wrapping MENUs around >> them. They had taken very early version of VMSG for the email >> client. When the VMSG tried to offer them a much enhanced version, the >> PROFS group attempted to get him fired (since they had already claimed >> credit for everyting). Things quieted down when VMSG author >> demonstrated that every PROFS email had his initials in non-displayed >> field (after that the VMSG author only shared source with me and one >> other person). > > Our corporate phone book was also on PROFS. Most useful. > > I liked PROFS, and used it until it was unplugged. Others liked > the PC email packages. > > It's sad to read of intra-department squabbles at IBM, but it > seems from the IBM Early Computer history that this is nothing > new. Back in the early 1950s there was rivalry between the > Endicott and Poughkeepsie labs. The S/360 development had a > lot of sharp differences of opinion on the direction to go. > > Some CEO's believe conflict in an organization is healthy and > spurs people onward. Watson Jr said in his memoirs that he > liked to purposely shake things up in the company. Personally, > I think a company functions better as a united team and conflicting > are best worked out at a low level when possible. > That's best if you're going in the right direction, but a herd of lemmings marching in lockstep off a cliff is never a good thing. -- Pete
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