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Article #621512Re: Old word processors
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:09
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:09
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hanc...@bbs.cpcn.com writes: > I'm guessing that in the old days, tabulating machines were > used on occasion to cut a mimeo stencil for things like a > directory or catalog. I don't know about a computer driven > 1403, but probably done there as well, especially back in the > early 1960s. > > On our Univac 90/30, we had a film ribbon which we used from > time to time to produce a directory that was photocopied. But > the printer of the 90/30 was pretty crappy and even with a film > ribbon the output looked lousy, indeed even worse, such as with > only partly formed characters. Our office had a mag card, and > that should've been used instead to maintain the directory, even > if it meant duplicate typing. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#94 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#100 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#103 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#109 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018c.html#1 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018c.html#7 Old word processors CP67 and VM370 were being done in CMS script (originally started out as CTSS RUNOFF reimplementation) ... for official ibm publication ... some run off on 2741 using film ribbon and some being run off on 1403N1 with film ribbon ... used for photo offset https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offset_printing First major mainstream IBM pub was principles of operation .... where the architecture "red book" was moved to CMS script ... command line option would either select printing the full "red book" (with engineering notes, implementation notes, alternative considerations, etc) or the princles of operation subset. GML had been invented at the science center ... and GML tag support was added to CMS script which started seeing a lot more use in the first part of 70s ... and then 2nd half of the 70s started seeing lots of 3800 laser printers at internal datacenters (75-76) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_3800 then in 79/80, 6670s (ibm copier3 with computer interface) started showing up in departmental areas (supported fonts for printing text) ... originally for OS/6 ... OPD, replacing mag card selectrics, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/6 replaced by displaywriter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Displaywriter_System then mainframe support was added. san jose research did the enhancements for sherpa/6670APA (being able to do images). old email about sherpa http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#email820304 one of the people responsible for sherpa ... worked on including postscript processing in sherpa ... and then left IBM for adobe. directory trivia: Friday's after work had discussions what could be done about middle management and upper executives mostly being computer illiterate and what might be done to get them to use computers. we hit on trying online phone directory ... Jim Gray (before he left research for tandem) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gray_(computer_scientist) would spend max. of 2 person weeks developing the lookup program and I would spend max. of 2 person weeks writing process collecting and reformating as many company phone directories as possible (one of problems ran into was lawyers & security people wanted to insist that while paper directories weren't corporate confidential ... if they were online, they had to be classified confidential restricted and employees couldn't have access). this was in period (late 70s/early 80s) where 3270 terminals were part of fall budget cycle and each one required VP-level sign-off. Then there was a rapidly spreading rumor that some of the corporate executive committee members were using email ... and all of a sudden every middle manager in the company had to have 3270 terminal on their desk (even if they never actually used them, spending the day with the vm370 login screen or possibly PROFS menu being burned into screen) ... pre-empting annual 3270 terminal deliveries justified for development projects. other trivia: PROFS group had collecting some number of internal applications (including telephone books) and wrapping MENUs around them. They had taken very early version of VMSG for the email client. When the VMSG tried to offer them a much enhanced version, the PROFS group attempted to get him fired (since they had already claimed credit for everyting). Things quieted down when VMSG author demonstrated that every PROFS email had his initials in non-displayed field (after that the VMSG author only shared source with me and one other person). science center posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech GML/SGML posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#sgml some CP67/CMS pubs http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/cp67/ http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/cms/ -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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