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Article #621389Re: Old word processors
From: Anne Lynn Wheeler
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:47
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:47
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Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes: > AIX is a form of UNIX. > > Z/OS is derived from MVS. It may be POSIX-compliant, but so is Windows, and > Windows is not UNIX either. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#94 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#100 Old word processors http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018b.html#103 Old word processors There had been a number of AIXs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX When the austin displaywriter followon was canceled (ROMP, 801/risc), the decided to get company that did AT&T unix port for IBM/PC (that was sold as PC/IX) to do one for ROMP ... which was announced as AIX with PC/RT (workstation). The palo alto group was doing BSD port to mainframe ... but then got redirected to port to ROMP (PC/RT) instead ... which was announced as AOS. 801/risc, romp, rios, power/pc, etc posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#801 The palo alto group was also working with UCLA on Locus (another UNIX work-alike). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOCUS_(operating_system) it was eventually announce as AIX/370 and AIX/386 ... and supported both distributed file system as well as distributed processing as well as processor migration (even across dissimilar architectures under some constraints). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX#IBM_PS/2_series and (some details garbled) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_AIX#IBM_mainframes The original POSIX support in MVS was funded by GPD (disk division, renamed adstar) VP of software ... it was part of strategy to get around problems with communication group. periodically repeated story: Late 80s, a senior disk engineer group a talk scheduled at internal, world-wide, annual, communication group conference ... supposedly on 3174 performance ... however he opened his talk with the statement that the head of the communication group was going to be responsible for the demise of the disk division. The issue was that the communication group had stranglehold on datacenters with corporate strategic ownership of everything that crossed datacenter walls and were fiercely fighting off distributed computing and client/server, trying to preserve their dumb terminal paradigm and install base. The disk division was seeing data fleeing datacenters to more distributed computing friendly platforms with fall in disk sales. The disk division had come up with a number of solutions to address the opportunity, but they were constantly being vetoed by the communication group. The datacenter stranglehold wasn't just affecting disk sales and a few years later the company goes into the red. communication group & dumb terminal posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#terminal gpd/adstar executive was funding (non-IBM) startups for distributed computing projects that would use IBM disks (since they technically weren't IBM products and therefor not subject to communication group veto) ... as well as developing POSIX support on MVS ( communication group couldn't veto POSIX, since it didn't involve anything that crossed datacenter walls). -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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